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glaziermart Flag 06 Mar 17 9.12am

I feel that although we do have some tough games between now and the end of the season, we are still i think in a better position to pull clear. If you look at Middlesbrough, they have a horrendous last 6 fixtures and also they are all pretty much in a cluster i.e. one tough game follows another. In contrast, we have one tough one, followed by a winnable one. Also people have to remember, we suddenly have more confidence now, we look more like the team that was 5th in the Premier at Christmas 2015. Back then, all of us were confident we could go to places like Anfield and get results ( we did as well, beating the scousers 2-1 ) and i would argue we have an even better team now than back then. I think Sunderland will go this season (at long last!!) and Hull cannot score enough goals to win games. We have a gap now, and if we keep playing to the standard we showed at West Brom, we should easily get to 35 points which should be enough this year for safety

 

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View Kermit8's Profile Kermit8 Flag Hevon 06 Mar 17 9.21am Send a Private Message to Kermit8 Add Kermit8 as a friend

If the players as a collective want it enough they will survive with points to spare. Up until Saturday there hadn't really been the strong sign that they did plus a distinct lack of needed quality made the situation look very bleak indeed but it looks like the club may have pulled the rabbit out of the hat with some of the new signings.

Still nail-biting time and relegation is still 50/50 considering our run-in but that 50/50 is a huge leap forward after that 0-4.

For the first time since Watford away I can say, after Saturday, there are probably three worse teams than us in that bottom 7. Just.

 


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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 06 Mar 17 10.23am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Sunderland fixtures:

Date GW Opponent Fixture Difficulty Ranking (1=Low 5=High)

18 Mar 15:00 29 Burnley (H) 1
01 Apr 15:00 30 Watford ( A) 2
04 Apr 19:45 31 Leicester ( A) 2
09 Apr 13:30 32 Man Utd (H) 4
15 Apr 15:00 33 West Ham (H) 2
22 Apr 15:00 34 Arsenal ( A) 4
29 Apr 15:00 35 Bournemouth (H) 2
06 May 15:00 36 Hull ( A) 2
13 May 15:00 37 Swansea (H) 2
21 May 15:00 38 Chelsea ( A) 5
Middlesbrough ( A) 2

Hull fixtures:


11 Mar 15:00 28 Swansea (H) 2
18 Mar 15:00 29 Everton ( A) 3
01 Apr 15:00 30 West Ham (H) 2
05 Apr 19:45 31 Middlesbrough (H) 2
08 Apr 15:00 32 Man City ( A) 4
15 Apr 15:00 33 Stoke ( A) 2
22 Apr 15:00 34 Watford (H) 2
29 Apr 15:00 35 Southampton ( A) 3
06 May 15:00 36 Sunderland (H) 1
13 May 15:00 37 Crystal Palace ( A) 2
21 May 15:00 38 Spurs (H) 4


Middlesbrough fixtures:

19 Mar 12:00 29 Man Utd (H) 4
02 Apr 13:30 30 Swansea ( A) 2
05 Apr 19:45 31 Hull ( A) 2
08 Apr 15:00 32 Burnley (H) 1
17 Apr 20:00 33 Arsenal (H) 4
22 Apr 15:00 34 Bournemouth ( A) 2
29 Apr 15:00 35 Man City (H) 4
06 May 15:00 36 Chelsea ( A) 5
13 May 15:00 37 Southampton (H) 3
21 May 15:00 38 Liverpool ( A) 4
Sunderland (H) 1


Palace fixtures:

18 Mar 15:00 29 Watford (H) 2
01 Apr 15:00 30 Chelsea ( A) 5
05 Apr 19:45 31 Southampton ( A) 3
10 Apr 20:00 32 Arsenal (H) 4
15 Apr 15:00 33 Leicester (H) 1
23 Apr 16:30 34 Liverpool ( A) 4
29 Apr 17:30 35 Burnley (H) 1
06 May 15:00 36 Man City ( A) 4
13 May 15:00 37 Hull (H) 2
21 May 15:00 38 Man Utd ( A) 4
Spurs (H) 4


Edited by Mad4palace (06 Mar 2017 10.26am)

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 06 Mar 17 10.34am Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Mad4Palace so Leicester home is the banker win ?

 


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View Mad4palace's Profile Mad4palace Flag 06 Mar 17 10.39am Send a Private Message to Mad4palace Add Mad4palace as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Mad4Palace so Leicester home is the banker win ?

those where difficulty rankings from the fantasy league, not sure how they calculate, i'm guessing on league position then if home/away. Nothing to do with form or records home/away.

 

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View palaceontheup's Profile palaceontheup Flag 06 Mar 17 10.50am Send a Private Message to palaceontheup Add palaceontheup as a friend

Originally posted by Kermit8

If the players as a collective want it enough they will survive with points to spare. Up until Saturday there hadn't really been the strong sign that they did plus a distinct lack of needed quality made the situation look very bleak indeed but it looks like the club may have pulled the rabbit out of the hat with some of the new signings.

Still nail-biting time and relegation is still 50/50 considering our run-in but that 50/50 is a huge leap forward after that 0-4.

For the first time since Watford away I can say, after Saturday, there are probably three worse teams than us in that bottom 7. Just.

So, like many others on here, You were wrong to write your own team off completely with plenty of points still to play for?

 


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Originally posted by palaceontheup

So, like many others on here, You were wrong to write your own team off completely with plenty of points still to play for?

No. The team I wrote off was a different starting XI. That team was definitely going down. There are three maybe four better players here now. We still might go down with our run in but at least now there is genuine hope rather than blinkered/blind optimism.

Put it this way - if we hadn't had got Sakho on loan then we would still have major problems. One player. What a difference, eh?

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

No. The team I wrote off was a different starting XI. That team was definitely going down. There are three maybe four better players here now. We still might go down with our run in but at least now there is genuine hope rather than blinkered/blind optimism.

Put it this way - if we hadn't had got Sakho on loan then we would still have major problems. One player. What a difference, eh?

Now come on Kermit you New we had the Transfer window.!!!
Anyhow we should not get carried away.
Palace like all teams need to pick up points week in week out.
PS one man does not make the difference.
And you would have signed an unknown.!!
COYP KEEP IT UP.

 


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We MUST beat Hull and Burnley. If we win those I'm very confident we will be ok.
Worryingly, Chelsea may have the title wrapped up with 4 games to go and play the kids against some of our rivals in May
We also need to hope that Sunderland are still in touch with a chance when they play Hull or they won't be up for the fight.
A lot of ifs and buts and we certainly need some luck along the way.
3 wins and 2 draws puts us on 36 points- I think that will be enough this year, as long as we maintain a superior goal difference over those around us

 


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Not seen Bournemouth's run in but I certainly wouldn't discount them from the relegation picture, plus they have problems at both ends of the pitch in spite of their result at the weekend. Leicester and Swansea are both looking much better but still don't have enough points to be considered safe.

Also if we beat Watford in our next game we will only be 3 points behind them with a better goal difference.

Burnley's next 2 games are away from home and their away record is abysmal (2 points all season I believe) and then they have Spurs at home in the following game. While they are 6 points above us we could conceivably erode that difference over the next 3 games. They don't have any "home bankers" with Stoke probably the easiest of their remaining home fixtures. Their away games are more winnable but they've shown they lack confidence and tactics to play away from home.


If I was going to put money on it I'd say current bottom 3 and Bournemouth will be the 4 along with us to be going into the last couple of weeks still in trouble, but Swansea, Leicester, Burnley and Watford shouldn't be discounted just yet.

 

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Brentmiester_General Flag Front line in the battle against t... 06 Mar 17 11.42am

Originally posted by palaceontheup

So, like many others on here, You were wrong to write your own team off completely with plenty of points still to play for?

I'll admit I was after what I saw on Saturday.

 


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After today's game each of the bottom 7 will have 11 matches left. Interesting to look at how many of those games involve the bottom seven playing each other.

Bournemouth on 27 points .............. 4 against those around them, 2 at home and 2 away

Leicester on 27 points ..................... 3 against those around them, 2 at home and 1 away

Swansea on 27 points ..................... 4 against those around them, 1 at home and 3 away

Palace on 25 points ......................... 2 against those around them, 2 at home and 0 away

Boro on 22 points ............................ 4 against those around them, 1 at home and 3 away

Hull on 21 points ............................. 4 against those around them, 3 at home and 1 away

SAFC on 19 points .......................... 5 against those around them, 2 at home and 3 away

This is how a Sunderland fan sees hope, that we only have two against those around us.

 


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