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View We are goin up!'s Profile We are goin up! Flag Coulsdon 20 Jun 17 8.36am Send a Private Message to We are goin up! Add We are goin up! as a friend

Have watched a couple of games in the Confederations Cup where they've been trialling the new VARs. It is absolutely shocking. I know there are teething problems etc but it's going to turn into a farce unless they fix it.

The main problem is that a team will now appeal anything when they've conceded a goal. They'll berate the referee and tell him to check upstairs because of some cooked up reason it shouldn't be a goal. It takes away from that moment as a fan where it's pure happiness that your team has scored a goal, you have to wait to find out. I've always thought this a bit of a problem with the review system in cricket, that moment we all watch sport for is the sudden adrenaline rush you get when your team scores/takes a wicket. Now every decision is going to be question and it's going to lead to a massive sanitisation of the game. Plus, isn't the controversy part of what we love about football?

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 20 Jun 17 8.40am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by We are goin up!

Have watched a couple of games in the Confederations Cup where they've been trialling the new VARs. It is absolutely shocking. I know there are teething problems etc but it's going to turn into a farce unless they fix it.

The main problem is that a team will now appeal anything when they've conceded a goal. They'll berate the referee and tell him to check upstairs because of some cooked up reason it shouldn't be a goal. It takes away from that moment as a fan where it's pure happiness that your team has scored a goal, you have to wait to find out. I've always thought this a bit of a problem with the review system in cricket, that moment we all watch sport for is the sudden adrenaline rush you get when your team scores/takes a wicket. Now every decision is going to be question and it's going to lead to a massive sanitisation of the game. Plus, isn't the controversy part of what we love about football?

I've heard that even with the use of VAR there has been debate surrounding subjective decisions !

As I have mentioned before the technology is there, but it is a question of it's usage in various scenarios and I think I used the phrase "The devil lies in the detail".

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chateauferret Flag 20 Jun 17 9.57pm

I thought that making up arrangements that were actually worse than the s*** we've already got would be quite a challenge but they've succeeded in that in style.

What they seem to have done is to increase the number of t***s. Previously, football was officiated by a t**t, with two assistant t***s (linesman) and a fourth official who oversees substitutions and Clattenburg time. Now we have two more t***s whose job seems to be to let players argue with the other t***s' decisions and change them if they make enough noise. Rooney must be ecstatic.

I can only assume that someone's got an agenda for producing "evidence" that video technology doesn't help in order to get the idea kyboshed.

 


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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 20 Jun 17 11.18pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add HeathMan as a friend

Rooney must be ecstatic.

we will have to wait and see whether there is a supplementary Pl next season - one point per Palace player sent of by VAR in first fifteen minutes.

I am sure that we can think of people eligible to be VARs when injured, Mr Robert Snodgrass springs to mind.

 

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chateauferret Flag 28 Jun 17 9.35pm

Another ballsup in extra time in the Confederations Cup, Chile v Portugal. Challenge by Fonte should've been a penalty but the ref didn't see it or review it. If he thought it wasn't a penalty he should have booked the Chilean forward, but didn't.

Shambles.

Portugal out on penalty kicks, BTW. My heart bleeds.

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View CPFC_1905's Profile CPFC_1905 Flag 29 Jun 17 10.55am Send a Private Message to CPFC_1905 Add CPFC_1905 as a friend

Initially, I thought a great idea.

It's implementation is slowing the game down. More controversy, as per last night, when it isn't used.

And the chance to look over every issue.

 

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View Ray in Houston's Profile Ray in Houston Flag Houston 29 Jun 17 3.01pm Send a Private Message to Ray in Houston Add Ray in Houston as a friend

Originally posted by CPFC_1905

Initially, I thought a great idea.

It's implementation is slowing the game down. More controversy, as per last night, when it isn't used.

And the chance to look over every issue.

Referees continually balls up the offside rule, the simulation rules and even, in specific cases, the advantage rule.

The VAR rule has the same, intrinsic issue of being a rule that has to be adjudicated by w***ers in black, with added complication of technology. Give them time, they'll still f*** it up at a frequency that will be head-scratching, but they'll get the time-wastage down.

 


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chateauferret Flag 29 Jun 17 8.34pm

And in the Germany - Mexico semi final a blatant penalty not given for Germany.

Sorry, exactly ehat are the two extra t***s there for again?

 


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chateauferret Flag 03 Jul 17 8.47am

Confederations cup topped off with blatant stone wall red card not given despite HAD review. Beyond farcical. Looks like referees are so incompetent or so.biased they can't even give obvious decisions when they're put in their laps. F***ing pathetic.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 03 Jul 17 8.57am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I have always said that whilst the technology is available, it's application is open to debate, adding that "The devil lies in the detail".

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View kenbarr's Profile kenbarr Flag Jackson Heights, Queens, New York ... 03 Jul 17 1.29pm Send a Private Message to kenbarr Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add kenbarr as a friend

In the Confed Cup, the only thing that was proven was, "Opinions are like toucises, everybody has one. Add in the incessant barracking from pundits and you get a shambles. Goal line technology is definite, either it is or it isn't. Whether a foul requires further discipline and what level it should be is subjective. In the Germany - Chile match I'm sure that before kick off the officials were told to be absolutely sure before sending a player off. I'm not surprised that the ref showed yellow instead of red, it happens all the time. If the primary purpose of VAR is to remove controversy from officiating decisions then they might as well call in Mr. Phelps and his Impossible Missions force.

 


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