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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jul 17 8.30pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Haven't you got a 'I hate the Tories because I am Jeremy Corbyn's bitch' thread to start?

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Jul 17 8.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Haven't you got a 'I hate the Tories because I am Jeremy Corbyn's bitch' thread to start?

It's not the man, it's the policies I like.

If this is the level of debate you want...

Haven't you got a Moseley speech to pick out for your regular Sunday morning appearances at speakers corner.

 

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wordup Flag 28 Jul 17 8.37pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Get over yourself. She used an historically denigrating term in a strange context and it's done. Move on.

Personally, I don't spend much time worrying about what Black people are offended by. I spend even less time worrying about what dopey, holier than thou, white people are offended by on other people's behalf.
However, I am offended by a number of things that this country has had to endure since modern immigration began. Do you want to talk about that?

It is of course possible to care - or to not care -
about the treatment of black people or white people or anyone for that matter without twinning it with immigration.

An attack based on skin colour needn't come down to 'well i'm not that keen on immigration' so I'll care massively about that, and not about someone being zoned in on because of their race. You can care about both. Politics needn't come into it - there a great many black British people without much of a meaningful link to another country, and on top of that a persons race doesn't tell you anything about their politics or beliefs.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jul 17 8.54pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by nickgusset

It's not the man, it's the policies I like.

If this is the level of debate you want...

Haven't you got a Moseley speech to pick out for your regular Sunday morning appearances at speakers corner.

The difference being that you are a self confessed Corbynite where as your reference to Moseley has nothing to do with my opinions and is yet another attempt by you at character assassination.

I feel sorry for someone like you who hates his own life so much that he has to lash out in frustration at others.

 

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wordup Flag 28 Jul 17 8.56pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The difference being that you are a self confessed Corbynite where as your reference to Moseley has nothing to do with my opinions and is yet another attempt by you at character assassination.

I feel sorry for someone like you who hates his own life so much that he has to lash out in frustration at others.

Come on, say what you really think!

 

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hedgehog50 Flag Croydon 28 Jul 17 9.00pm

Originally posted by gambler

Do you know how ridiculous that is?

Edit - your comment obviously.

Edited by gambler (28 Jul 2017 7.54pm)

Remember Gordon Brown calling a Labour voter a bigot because she was concerned about uncontrolled immigration affecting employment and wages?

 


We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. [Orwell]

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jul 17 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by wordup

It is of course possible to care - or to not care -
about the treatment of black people or white people or anyone for that matter without twinning it with immigration.

An attack based on skin colour needn't come down to 'well i'm not that keen on immigration' so I'll care massively about that, and not about someone being zoned in on because of their race. You can care about both. Politics needn't come into it - there a great many black British people without much of a meaningful link to another country, and on top of that a persons race doesn't tell you anything about their politics or beliefs.

The treatment of black people should be the same as anyone else. I think that is rather part of my point.

I am not particularly interested if some people get offended by a word. White people are not afforded this sort of indulgence and a 100 history lessons will not alter the fact that people need to get over historical sensitivity as much as they need to respect other peoples feelings. Somewhere in the middle we might all grow up and stop worrying about this s***. Immigration is a separate subject and something that has introduced a number of issues that offend many. Of course, their feelings are not afforded the same degree of consideration as a single outdated derogatory word spoken by a person who is clearly out of touch with modernity.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Jul 17 9.16pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

The difference being that you are a self confessed Corbynite where as your reference to Moseley has nothing to do with my opinions and is yet another attempt by you at character assassination.

I feel sorry for someone like you who hates his own life so much that he has to lash out in frustration at others.

Ah the pity response. One of my favourites. It's touching that I m in your thoughts.

I'm a Corbynite in that he echoes a lot of what I've been advocating on here for years, way before Corbyn was ever thought of as leadership material let alone turning round Labour's fortunes on a democratic socialist agenda.
I'm not frustrated. For years I've been told I was thick and ridiculed on here for arguing what I believe in. Was told no one buys those arguments anymore. Well It turns out that many many people have similar ideologies to mine.
To say Labour's performance at the GE gave all the hate filled, bile spouting vitriol right wing media and their acolytes a bloody nose would be an understatement.

Frustration? It must be really frustrating when a 'remoaner' brings light to a potential pitfall Inn the process and your only response is a put down because you haven't got a counter argument. Really frustrating.

Still if you want to imagine me as someone deserving pity, that's your lookout.

 

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legaleagle Flag 28 Jul 17 9.29pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

So you are saying that everyone in Alabama was a racist?
And you are comparing Alabama in the 60's to Britain in 2017?
And you think that George Wallace has anything to do with wanting to reduce immigration or encouraging people not to overreact to words?

Does anyone hear the sound of bitter?

Does anyone hear the sound of someone with so little self-insight that they have totally missed the point?

Nighty night,Judge.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jul 17 9.33pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Touched a nerve?

Edited by Hrolf The Ganger (28 Jul 2017 9.34pm)

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 28 Jul 17 9.42pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by legaleagle

Does anyone hear the sound of someone with so little self-insight that they have totally missed the point?

Nighty night,Judge.

Really? I mean really?

The 'Judge' must be laughing somewhere.

Oh, I got your point alright and it was lame.
Comparing historical segregation in the deep south with modern immigration issues is just playing identity politics. It is part of the strawman argument once again that links racism with sensible concerns about this countries future.

 

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nickgusset Flag Shizzlehurst 28 Jul 17 9.53pm

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Really? I mean really?

The 'Judge' must be laughing somewhere.

Oh, I got your point alright and it was lame.
Comparing historical segregation in the deep south with modern immigration issues is just playing identity politics. It is part of the strawman argument once again that links racism with sensible concerns about this countries future.

Either this country's (denoting possession) or these countries. (plural)

For a Johnny Englander you have a poor grasp of your mother tongue.

 

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