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View sitdownstandup's Profile sitdownstandup Flag 17 Jul 17 7.37pm Send a Private Message to sitdownstandup Add sitdownstandup as a friend

...means a decline in standards of meat and an increase in the suffering of animals. (i know the spokesperson in the report said that it doesn't mean a decrease in the quality of meat but, hey, he would do though)

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Here's a telling quote from the report

"Last year, we grew almost a billion birds, 95% indoors and 3.4% free range and 1% organic. If we tried to grow a billion birds a year organically, that would be a lot of land. Itís a balancing act, and itís demand-driven. I donít think weíll see a change in systems without consumer demand. At the moment, that demand isnít there.Ē


So much for cruelty free chicken... No surprise that more people are becoming veggies/vegans or cutting down on meat when you find out about the practices of modern farming systems.

 

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View OllieMaidstoneEagle's Profile OllieMaidstoneEagle Flag Maidstone, Kent 17 Jul 17 8.41pm Send a Private Message to OllieMaidstoneEagle Add OllieMaidstoneEagle as a friend

Shocking isn't it! I know that farmers were breeding chickens with six,yes six legs because of record sales of chicken 'drum-sticks'and they couldn't keep up with demand from Colonel Sanders etc. Trouble is no-one knows what they taste like 'cause they can't catch the basstards!!! Ollie's Dad,Ash.

 


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Originally posted by OllieMaidstoneEagle

Shocking isn't it! I know that farmers were breeding chickens with six,yes six legs because of record sales of chicken 'drum-sticks'and they couldn't keep up with demand from Colonel Sanders etc. Trouble is no-one knows what they taste like 'cause they can't catch the basstards!!! Ollie's Dad,Ash.

hey ollie's dad, truth is most chickens bodies are so overgrown from the drugs they're injected with that they can't even walk so i would think that most chickens are pretty easy to catch... as for 6 legged chickens... knowing how the meat industry operates would it be that surprising if people aren't already eating them without even knowing about it????

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ps sorry mods, wrong thread... shoulda been in general talk...

 

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View chateauferret's Profile chateauferret Flag Airdrie 18 Jul 17 1.26am Send a Private Message to chateauferret Add chateauferret as a friend

Originally posted by sitdownstandup

ps sorry mods, wrong thread... shoulda been in general talk...

I thought this was on topic because some of them seem to be playing for the national team. Another lot of them were flailing feebly at some South African bowling today, as well. And did they not send a couple to Wimbledon?

 


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Originally posted by sitdownstandup

...means a decline in standards of meat and an increase in the suffering of animals. (i know the spokesperson in the report said that it doesn't mean a decrease in the quality of meat but, hey, he would do though)

What the spokesman probably meant was that there was no decline in the quality of the meat as it's already pretty poor.

Us oldies will remember a time when chicken tasted wonderful and was probably the most expensive meat to buy but that changed decades ago when the British public took the stance that cheap meat was theirs by right.

I am fortunate enough to live near Packington organic pork farm where they also raise chickens on the same principles of real free range and decent feed and you can certainly taste the difference.

A medium sized chicken is certainly more expensive at about £14 but it tastes like they used to in the old days and not like supermarket style cardboard.

Nothing will ever change as people don't care enough. Whenever Jamie Oliver shows us how cruel modern intensive farming methods are the people will gasp with dismay and just carry on perpetuating the system by buying the product

 

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Some meat is most definitely heinous murder considering what the poor things have to go through. Death camps basically.

Any new trade deal with the US including importation of meat will only lower the standards as they are even less rigorous with animal welfare. Plus, it will put some of our farmers out of business with the cheapness of their products.

Hoo-rah for Brexit

Edited by Kermit8 (18 Jul 2017 8.24am)

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Some meat is most definitely heinous murder considering what the poor things have to go through. Death camps basically.

Any new trade deal with the US including importation of meat will only lower the standards as they are even less rigorous with animal welfare. Plus, it will put some of our farmers out of business with the cheapness of their products.

Hoo-rah for Brexit

Edited by Kermit8 (18 Jul 2017 8.24am)

Bloody Brexit - is there no end to the crimes, torture and murder it is responsible for - they will be ploughing up turnips without anaesthetic next. What we want is more of those nice halal butchers. Surely, in this day and age, we have the technology to have video messages built into the packaging. When you go to buy your chicken it could tell you" "Hi, I was brought up in an open chicken-run and spent my days happily pecking worms to death"...


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Jul 17 10.20am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

The obvious point here is that this sort of intensive farming is a result of demand. The bigger the population grows, the more demand for food.
Idiots who pay no attention to the population problem have no clue as to the effects it will have.
RIght now our population is growing at more than 300,000 a year thanks to mass immigration.

 

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View Harpo's Profile Harpo Flag Oxfordshire 18 Jul 17 10.27am Send a Private Message to Harpo Add Harpo as a friend

And it will get worse.

I was speaking to a farmer yesterday, and he reported that the nation's vetinary practices are being hoovered up by the yanks.

Which means that the US pharma companies will not be very far away.

 

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Originally posted by sitdownstandup

Here's a telling quote from the report

"Last year, we grew almost a billion birds.

That's almost more than dannyh can handle in a year!

 


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Originally posted by Kermit8

Some meat is most definitely heinous murder considering what the poor things have to go through. Death camps basically.

Whilst I like the sentiment, and the nod to The Smiths, its more like animal cruelty offences, as murder is the unlawful ending of human life only.

Its no more murder than abortion is.

It might be cruel, inhumane and unnecessary suffering, but its not murder.

 


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