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View Zaha Oh Yes's Profile Zaha Oh Yes Flag Epsom 12 Aug 17 10.36pm Send a Private Message to Zaha Oh Yes Add Zaha Oh Yes as a friend

It seems as the team was very mixed messages. One minute you had Riedewald trying to play out from the back. Then you had PVA smashing forward. I am struggling to see this system being effective. Out of the ordinal players that FDB inherited. Who does this system actually suit. I'm struggling to come up with 4 names. We now found a system to make Zaha less effective. Who do you think suits the formation?

 

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View chateauferret's Profile chateauferret Flag Airdrie 12 Aug 17 10.43pm Send a Private Message to chateauferret Add chateauferret as a friend

Originally posted by Zaha Oh Yes

It seems as the team was very mixed messages. One minute you had Riedewald trying to play out from the back. Then you had PVA smashing forward. I am struggling to see this system being effective. Out of the ordinal players that FDB inherited. Who does this system actually suit. I'm struggling to come up with 4 names. We now found a system to make Zaha less effective. Who do you think suits the formation?

Manchester City.

HTH.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 12 Aug 17 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Frank said the players suit it and at that point we were 5-6 players short for 3-4-3. We're now at least 2 players short. RWB and keeper. But if there's injuries we'll be short again.

It's frustrating seeing the left sided players Riederwald and PVA receive the ball and not turn out wide to the left. Instead they pass inside every time. Very predictable and possible for 2-3 opposition players to act on and press Hennessey, Dann, Mensah, Luka, fvcking anybody really.

First 15 mins though I thought we looked dangerous going at them from all angles. Once they weathered that it was all over.

 


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View Zaha Oh Yes's Profile Zaha Oh Yes Flag Epsom 12 Aug 17 10.50pm Send a Private Message to Zaha Oh Yes Add Zaha Oh Yes as a friend

Doesn't Suit Benteke, Zaha, Townsend, puncheon, ward, Luka . Many more.

 

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View Zaha Oh Yes's Profile Zaha Oh Yes Flag Epsom 12 Aug 17 10.57pm Send a Private Message to Zaha Oh Yes Add Zaha Oh Yes as a friend

If de Boer was given a good chunk of money do you believe he should buy for 433 or 343.

 

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View GlaziertoEagle's Profile GlaziertoEagle Flag Coventry 12 Aug 17 11.04pm Send a Private Message to GlaziertoEagle Add GlaziertoEagle as a friend

It's difficult to determine which players it does and doesn't suit, as we haven't seen it performed properly yet.

I have noticed the system has been the focus of all the players interviewing in the pre-season, so it's obvious how much it's weighing on everyone's minds.

When I saw today's teamsheet, I thought that Riedewald and TFM were starting because of their knowledge and experience of the system would provide stability at this early stage of the season. What worries me though is that positionally, I felt they were continually in the wrong areas, exposing every missed pass from Dann, loss of possession from Ward and absent PVA.

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 12 Aug 17 11.27pm Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

We do not have enough technically gifted players that are comfortable playing this style. It is and will continue to be a disaster. Just because everyone else seems to want to play 3-4-3 doesn't mean it's right

 

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View Jamesrichards8's Profile Jamesrichards8 Flag 12 Aug 17 11.35pm Send a Private Message to Jamesrichards8 Add Jamesrichards8 as a friend

Essentially we'd need to sign a completely new team to have it be effective. Our best players are suited to counter attacking football. Wilf received the ball with his back to goal too many times in the first half. All our chances came from long balls or corners- i didn't see much of the total football that the system promised. We got killed by a team who i would still peg for relegation, and if De Boer doesn't admit we can't do this then he'll be gone by Christmas. I feel for Joel Ward, as he has never claimed to be a wing back- his best qualities are defensive and he looked out of place today, as did Tomkins in the wider central role. We all know that they're both good players in the right system, so why change it

 


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View Zaha Oh Yes's Profile Zaha Oh Yes Flag Epsom 12 Aug 17 11.38pm Send a Private Message to Zaha Oh Yes Add Zaha Oh Yes as a friend

I like to see something like this experience at the back in dann and Tomkins. Riedewald in central defensive mid. Dropping back if need to be he seems to be decent on the ball. Well for 10 minutes anyway.

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 13 Aug 17 12.01am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Change to 4-3-3. Buy Sakho make him captain along side Dann or Tomkins. TFM to RB Riedwalde to left side of midfield with RLC and Luka and Townsend back up top with Benteke and Wilf. Thats getting the best out of what we've got. Puncheon and Ward dropped

 

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View new_in_Wait's Profile new_in_Wait Flag Lewisham 13 Aug 17 1.08am Send a Private Message to new_in_Wait Add new_in_Wait as a friend

It also depends on the opponent. Huddersfield played with tight wing defence (the fullback and wide midfielder doubled all the time), which pushed our wing-backs to rush and pass the ball either back to the central defenders or (more likely) the two central midfielders. Luka got a knock and it took him out and Punch is just Punch, can't ask for much. There was a lot of waste in the middle of the park, which made us regress to Warnockian long balls into nothing (remember the hundreds of longs balls played on Zaha and Campbell back then? yolo).

Disappointing: Ward (out of position, slow and so easy to dribble past), Puncheon (I fail to see what influence he has, which apparently is the reason he's not dropped. PVA and RLC were shouting at him), Benteke (all too familiar self-indulgence and lack of judgement), Zaha (played on the left, where he's not as dangerous), Dann (physically weak and tactically erratic). Probably the players CAN play this system, but it will take a long time to drill. The question is if the price is worth paying- price being lots and lots of lost points. RLC and Mensah decent and episodically excellent, but they're not ours, so...

Watching MOTD as I type this- worrying that most teams in the EPL look v. comfortable in their systems, even the ones that lost!

 

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View Nevada Eagle's Profile Nevada Eagle Flag Carson City, Nevada 13 Aug 17 1.53am Send a Private Message to Nevada Eagle Add Nevada Eagle as a friend

This system is great.Can't wait till next week.

 


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