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View TheArmaniCode's Profile TheArmaniCode Flag 13 Aug 17 1.32pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

I can already tell I'm going to get a lot of stick for this, but i honestly don't think the new formation is the problem. We were passing and pressing well in the first 20 minutes and looked very comfortable.

The problem lies with three players - Joel Ward, Jason Puncheon and Wayne Hennessey, especially that third one. As soon as they make one little mistake, the whole team confidence is killed. Not only that, but all three are so weak minded they can't recover, make more mistakes and by that point, it's game over. We've seen this time and time again against the likes of Villa, Sunderland and of course, yesterday.

The problem isn't the way we play. We're hopeless while any of that lot are anywhere near the starting line-up. I appreciate what Ward and Punch have given us over the years, but it's time to move on. We need new blood, a lot of it, and fast

 

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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Online Flag 13 Aug 17 1.44pm Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

I want a new Keeper and in the absence of that I was hoping Speroni would start yesterday.

I need to ask though, what did Hennessey do wrong yesterday? He actually took control of a situation when Riederwald looked flustered with De Boers short game and started launching it up to Benteke. He really had to, the press on us at CB was going to cost us more goals like when Dann lost it that way.

The first goal was dreadful defending. The second goal was dreadful defending plus bullet header top corner. The 3rd goal (guess what) was dreadful defending from a bloody goal kick.

What did Wayne do wrong yesterday?

 

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View twist's Profile twist Flag Miami, Florida 13 Aug 17 1.55pm Send a Private Message to twist Add twist as a friend

I dont see WH at fault for any of the goals. Sure de gea may have saved 1 of them, but hey, get real.

The obvious issue is the players are feeling out of place, not knowing what their roles are. The other issue, as many have mentioned, is Ward just is no wingback and cannot play that role.
JP is also a problem in the middle, playing this formation needs someone in the middle who can distribute at a moments notice, JP has his moments, but not many.

But the set pieces again were dismal, and we did have several opportunities which we made nothing of, whereas Huddersfield took their chances by the throat.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Aug 17 1.57pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

A quarter of a team (actually it's slightly more than a quarter) is quite a lot, and that's after having 3 new players on the pitch. One of whom had only been with us a few days, even though Mesah played well.

It's a complete lie we were/are suited/ have plasters to suit 3-4-3. Either play it if we do or do not. If he ignores this he's going to become very unpopular and sacked. But there's time, as long as he's not stubborn, but a lot of managers are.

 


COYP

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 13 Aug 17 2.04pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

If tour going to play a back 3 with a 19 year old and a 20 year old, the 3rd one needs to look after them, help them and constantly talk to them. Sadly dann is not that man. I slso think the system wasn't the real problem yestetday. It was mainly bad defending and not taking our chances. We were worst in the league last season for conceding at set pieces. Doesn't seem to have got any better thus season. ..

 

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View Dangermouse's Profile Dangermouse Flag Hastings 13 Aug 17 2.10pm Send a Private Message to Dangermouse Add Dangermouse as a friend

If we take our chances we get something from the game. For all our faults we played some good stuff, but didn't take our chances. The doubts over the system arose when we weren't in possession. Knowing your job when they've got the ball is what has to improve quickly. Getting players in that know the system will obviously speed it up.

 


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View HeathMan's Profile HeathMan Flag Purley 13 Aug 17 2.13pm Send a Private Message to HeathMan Add HeathMan as a friend

i am probably posting on the wrong thread - and could earn myself a red card - but I noticed a lot of our players demonstrating skill on the ball. 3-4-3 depends on four in the middle always available (far enough away from an opposition player) and ready to receive the ball and pass it usefully to another Palace player - hopefully a member of the forward three. When Ward went forward there was the width Palace need with Huddersfield pulled (possibly playing the bus system) out of the middle giving others chances. Yesterday a few boxes (for broadcasters) seem to have been ticked.
Arsenal won their first opener for a little while
a referee did not side with a top team - two Chelsea players off
Burnley, who towards the end of last season were know for not being an away team, got back to back away wins.
Huddersfield made a dream start to this season - the new blood is invigorating.
The Palace team did what they now and again do best - making a expected to be beaten team look outstanding.
The Palace match was second on MOTD.
I expect a Palace revival - can anyone tell me when it will be safe to open my eyes?
I often feel that football seems to be made entertaining and able to be talked about.
COYP, please

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Aug 17 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Dangermouse

If we take our chances we get something from the game. For all our faults we played some good stuff, but didn't take our chances. The doubts over the system arose when we weren't in possession. Knowing your job when they've got the ball is what has to improve quickly. Getting players in that know the system will obviously speed it up.

The doubts on the system arose after 15 minutes and them weathering the storm which incidentally came from us from all angles. after Huddersfield got comfortable with 3-4-3 we were fecked. Fecked I tell you, with or without the ball.

 


COYP

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Online Flag Oxford 13 Aug 17 3.44pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Big mistakes also made by Dann and Riedewald.

Maybe we could get 3-4-3 to work, who knows. But a 3-4-3 where we're passing out from the back - I don't think that's possible with our current players.

 

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View chateauferret's Profile chateauferret Flag Airdrie 13 Aug 17 4.30pm Send a Private Message to chateauferret Add chateauferret as a friend

Any goalkeeper is bound to look iffy with that toilet going on in front of him.

 


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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 13 Aug 17 6.14pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

We were very weak / disorganised in the air defensively and putting two inexperienced kids in the centre of defence was absurd. Riedeweld had no presence at all.

This is what ultimately cost us the game together with the space behind Ward.

Tomkins improved massively when Allardyce arrived IMO and surely must have been very pissed off at his exclusion.

Dann looked a shadow of his former self and never comfortable or a leader.

Townsend has much more pace and attacking quality than Ward but not sure he has the defensive attributes for RWB.

Not just down to formation but really poor team selection and neglect of defensive organisation.

Thought Hennessey was right to kick long given what was going on in front of him.

 

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View Dan89's Profile Dan89 Flag Se25 13 Aug 17 7.07pm Send a Private Message to Dan89 Add Dan89 as a friend

Let's say FDB is stubborn and doesn't change the system, what team can you see being effective in it, because I'm struggling to think of one.

 


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