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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag South London 13 Dec 17 6.39am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

He's done and is doing a good job making us hard to beat- the points tally since Chelsea is testament to that - but Roy's got to figure out how we get the 4 creative players working more effectively. Wilf is a winger if you aske me while RLC isn't - and surely needs to play off Benteke is we are playing 4 4 2. CB is often too isolated with this setup IMO. Thoughts?

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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 13 Dec 17 6.59am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

Zaha isn’t a striker and needs to go back into the wing.

Although I can understand Roy’s reasons to try him up front

Loftus should play the hole behind Benteke because he isn’t a winger

However I’d go one step further, I’d have it out with android and make him play on the left. He wants to play right wing and cut in. Well that’s only good if he does more infield but he doesn’t. So either play android on left and wild on right (still wilfs best position; right wing) or like before constantly swap them during the games.

And play milo JUST in front of the back four like big Sam did rather than central midfield. He’s a dmc.

Other than that we are a form team and perhaps playing these players in these positions makes us harder to beat, what do I know?

I reckon in two or three weeks time we’ll have two new strikers anyway and a lot will change

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 13 Dec 17 7.19am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

We should change positions, leaves teams guessing

 

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View MKCPFC's Profile MKCPFC Flag Spain/MK 13 Dec 17 7.23am Send a Private Message to MKCPFC Add MKCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

We should change positions, leaves teams guessing


Didn't Frank try that? We ended up being the team that was guessing.

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 13 Dec 17 8.44am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

If hes hell bent on 4 4 2 he should play RLC up front with Benteke. Wilf and Andros on oppodite flanks

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 13 Dec 17 9.25am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Agree with the thoughts. It doesn't work enough how it is.

I'd have Andros left and Wilf right 1st half mainly, with maybe a swap 1st half but definitely one late on in the 2nd half, especially at home. Wilf on the left v tired full backs late on definitely works.

I expect there'll be changes when hopefully some signings happen.

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 13 Dec 17 9.42am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by Aray

He's done and is doing a good job making us hard to beat- the points tally since Chelsea is testament to that - but Roy's got to figure out how we get the 4 creative players working more effectively. Wilf is a winger if you aske me while RLC isn't - and surely needs to play off Benteke is we are playing 4 4 2. CB is often too isolated with this setup IMO. Thoughts?

Edited by Aray (13 Dec 2017 6.40am)

Intrigued to why you think the formation is wrong. We are on an unbeaten run of 6 games, Roy and Ray have years of experience and watch the players training, so they know what they can do.
I guess you have no experience in football management, but think you know better.

 

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View MonsterMunch's Profile MonsterMunch Flag Cambridge 13 Dec 17 9.51am Send a Private Message to MonsterMunch Add MonsterMunch as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Intrigued to why you think the formation is wrong. We are on an unbeaten run of 6 games, Roy and Ray have years of experience and watch the players training, so they know what they can do.
I guess you have no experience in football management, but think you know better.

Yes I kind of agree. everyone can see that RLC is being wasted out wide, he just doesnt look comfortable there. We are missing creativity through the middle and have the answer imo stuck out on left. And Wilf is WIlf, he's a winger, an exceptional one at that. However as you have pointed out we are 6 unbeaten and he is getting results. Cant really take Roy to task with that. Roy has had a massive impact.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag Portishead 13 Dec 17 9.56am Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

I suspect this is a temporary situation imposed by the existence of only one fit striker in the squad.

If January goes as planned, we will have more options available.

For my part, I would love to see the wingers swapping over and bamboozle the opposition like Zaha and Bolasie used to do under Pardew before the squad was ravaged by injury.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 13 Dec 17 10.19am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

Yes I kind of agree. everyone can see that RLC is being wasted out wide, he just doesnt look comfortable there. We are missing creativity through the middle and have the answer imo stuck out on left. And Wilf is WIlf, he's a winger, an exceptional one at that. However as you have pointed out we are 6 unbeaten and he is getting results. Cant really take Roy to task with that. Roy has had a massive impact.

RLC is still young in Premier terms and hasn’t played that many games, not convinced he is that creative, more a give and go player and very steady.
Wilf is playing up front, but seems to have a free role to go where he wants, Roy obviously knows he unsettles most teams.
In February we will have more of an idea the formation Roy wants to play with any new signings.

 

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View Red & Blue Pharaoh's Profile Red & Blue Pharaoh Flag South London 13 Dec 17 10.26am Send a Private Message to Red & Blue Pharaoh Add Red & Blue Pharaoh as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Intrigued to why you think the formation is wrong. We are on an unbeaten run of 6 games, Roy and Ray have years of experience and watch the players training, so they know what they can do.
I guess you have no experience in football management, but think you know better.


I don't think you need experience in football management to have an opinion on our formation?

Yes, we're on a 6 game unbeaten run, but the performances haven't been particularly good. We didn't have a shot on target last night until the 88th min, Stoke was probably lucky too, as would have been against Bournemouth if we had won on Sat. WBA was a good point, but on paper we should be beating Brighton, and didn't offer anything going forward that night. One real chance if I remember correctly.

These are all teams who are struggling, and on another day the result could have gone the other way - we're not exactly playing them off the park.

RLC struggles to get into the game on the wing, and Wilf struggles to get the ball to feet alongside Benteke - yesterday's goals came from Wilf on the wing.

But onwards & upwards, i'll take picking up points and not playing well... you just worry our luck may change soon if we don't up our level of performance.

 


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View si_1967's Profile si_1967 Flag Surrey 13 Dec 17 10.28am Send a Private Message to si_1967 Add si_1967 as a friend

On yesterday's performance, I'd move Townsend to the bench. We need battlers at the moment especially in the away games, too much of a 'luxury' player for me. I don't think Sako is the answer but he will battle.

 


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