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View Medway Eagle's Profile Medway Eagle Flag Whitstable Kent 13 Dec 17 3.51pm Send a Private Message to Medway Eagle Add Medway Eagle as a friend

I think the performance of ref's in this day and age is appalling. And think the FA should set up a rotating board attending by duty premier managers, to assess each referee performance maybe bi-weekly/Monthly to asses there performance. With a system similar to the yellow/red card for players. Meaning if a performance by a referee is deemed to be below an acceptable standard they should receive a yellow card if they reach 4 yellows they should receive a 2 match ban and no salary for that period. If a performance is so poor that it effects the result it should be a red card and an automatic ban for 2 to 3 matches. If that was adopted the refereeing would soon improve or those repeatedly offending should be dropped in standard

Thoughts and opinions please

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chateauferret Flag 13 Dec 17 4.17pm

Subject to the specifics eveyone here would agree that the standard of match officials is s*** and they need to be morr accountable.

Everyone except one person, that is.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 17 4.26pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Subject to the specifics eveyone here would agree that the standard of match officials is s*** and they need to be morr accountable.

Everyone except one person, that is.

You are certainly right about that "One person".Well done.

 

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View Medway Eagle's Profile Medway Eagle Flag Whitstable Kent 13 Dec 17 4.36pm Send a Private Message to Medway Eagle Add Medway Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

You are certainly right about that "One person".Well done.

Willo can you give a few reasons that match officials should not be held accountable for the decisions with so much at stake??

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 17 4.42pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Medway Eagle

Willo can you give a few reasons that match officials should not be held accountable for the decisions with so much at stake??

Ther ARE answerable for their decisions and actions as part of the post match 'Forensic' vigorous assessments of their match performance.

It really is detailed scrutiny using the match coverage and 'ProZone'. Referees are assessed not only for their technical performance but their match management and their decision making.

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View merganser's Profile merganser Flag 13 Dec 17 5.08pm Send a Private Message to merganser Add merganser as a friend

Willo makes a fair point.

But is it time for the assessments to be made public?

At the moment, the information is kept under wraps.

 

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View eagleman13's Profile eagleman13 Flag On The Road To Hell & Alicante 13 Dec 17 5.50pm Send a Private Message to eagleman13 Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add eagleman13 as a friend

Originally posted by merganser

Willo makes a fair point.

But is it time for the assessments to be made public?

At the moment, the information is kept under wraps.

Yes, it is, same as all info on players, clubs, county & national assoc. It is the same in the business & commerce world too, 'what you don't know, wont harm you'

In response to the OP & in agreement with Willo here, having been an assessor for 6 years, EVERY match official in the top 9 tiers are assessed every game

IF, a match official is deemed to fall below certain standards they are put into a lower league till those standards are brought back up.

With the 'Elite' group, there are 30 professional Officials....10 in the middle, 10 as 4th official & the other 10 either hols/away/lower lge appointments.

Hope this helps to explain what goes on.

 


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chateauferret Flag 13 Dec 17 6.31pm

Originally posted by Willo

You are certainly right about that "One person".Well done.

Predicting your response to a ref thread is no harder than predicting the result of Benteke taking a penalty.

 


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chateauferret Flag 13 Dec 17 6.32pm

Originally posted by Willo

Ther ARE answerable for their decisions and actions as part of the post match 'Forensic' vigorous assessments of their match performance.

It really is detailed scrutiny using the match coverage and 'ProZone'. Referees are assessed not only for their technical performance but their match management and their decision making.


Edited by Willo (13 Dec 2017 4.47pm)

Please look up the following words in a dictionary:

"Accountable"

"Assessed"

and tell me whether you still think they mean the same thing.


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Dec 17 6.39pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Please look up the following words in a dictionary:

"Accountable"

"Assessed"

and tell me whether you still think they mean the same thing.


Edited by chateauferret (13 Dec 2017 6.32pm)


I don't need to look them up.

I am happy that one can be "Accountable" and be "Assessed" at the same time.
One can explain decisions or action or none in the case of both as part of a performance evaluation.

Dear me - 'Semantics' or just another English lesson.

My views on this subject have been well documented and I stand 'Four square' behind them.

Edited by Willo (13 Dec 2017 6.40pm)

 

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View Helmet46's Profile Helmet46 Flag Croydon 13 Dec 17 6.53pm Send a Private Message to Helmet46 Add Helmet46 as a friend

I think it will be excellent when they have more video reviews and, Clattenburg aside - who now appears to have admitted to what we have always accused him of - they don’t deliberately make errors. Having said that they are guilty of pre-judging players (Zaha, Andy Johnson) and hopefully they will be under a lot of pressure to ensure this doesn’t happen, as video reviews will really put any poor decisions in the full glare of public scrutiny.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 13 Dec 17 6.54pm Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

how easy is it to be promoted/demoted to/from elite ref status? sometimes I wonder if the closed-door nature of the PL as a franchise has created issues with the quality of reffing.

 


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