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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 14 Dec 17 2.52pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Could be an epic thread.

 


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View Southampton_Eagle's Profile Southampton_Eagle Flag At the after party 14 Dec 17 2.57pm Send a Private Message to Southampton_Eagle Add Southampton_Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Could be an epic thread.

Give it a couple of hours and the usual sh*tfest will be in full flow.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 14 Dec 17 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Southampton_Eagle

Give it a couple of hours and the usual sh*tfest will be in full flow.

Lol. It's all the Tories fault.

You couldn't make it up.

 

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View europalace's Profile europalace Flag Europe 14 Dec 17 3.17pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

I think there should be several tax bands in the UK as a whole, based on cost of living. The lower the cost of living, the lower the tax thresholds start. It should be a combination of address and work location.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Dec 17 3.36pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Should be flat 27% above 10k across the board
That includes National insurance
that way it's easy to
1_ work it out yourself
2_ budget us and government
3_ stops dodgy accounts as nothing to protect
Then all the employers need to do is top up the NI as they do now.
It's not hard. But blue sky thinking doesn't appear to be easy for anyone incharge lately
Mine as well nick

 

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View europalace's Profile europalace Flag Europe 14 Dec 17 3.44pm Send a Private Message to europalace Add europalace as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Should be flat 27% above 10k across the board
That includes National insurance
that way it's easy to
1_ work it out yourself
2_ budget us and government
3_ stops dodgy accounts as nothing to protect
Then all the employers need to do is top up the NI as they do now.
It's not hard. But blue sky thinking doesn't appear to be easy for anyone incharge lately
Mine as well nick

I think there should be a 30% witholding tax for the self employed deducted at source. When they fill in their tax return, they will be refunded or sent a further bill based on their income. That will stop the tax evasion by some self employed and put them on a temporary PAYE type arrangement. They'll pay the same tax due anyway, so no reason to complain about it.

Edited by europalace (14 Dec 2017 3.46pm)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 14 Dec 17 3.47pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

I think there should be a 30% witholding tax for the self employed deducted at source. When they fill in their tax return, they will be refunded or sent a further bill based on their income. That will stop the tax evasion by some self employed and put them on a temporary PAYE type arrangement. They'll pay the same tax due anyway, so no reason to complain about it.

Edited by europalace (14 Dec 2017 3.46pm)

Cash flow is huge for the self-employed; would kill a lot.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Dec 17 4.06pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

I think there should be a 30% witholding tax for the self employed deducted at source. When they fill in their tax return, they will be refunded or sent a further bill based on their income. That will stop the tax evasion by some self employed and put them on a temporary PAYE type arrangement. They'll pay the same tax due anyway, so no reason to complain about it.

Edited by europalace (14 Dec 2017 3.46pm)

The self employed working for an 'employer' are not the ones who could get away with it so easily
The one man bands working for us and the public can cook the books if they want to.
Lots of greenbacks being paid out and how can that be monitored.
Trust and honour disappear where money is involved.
That's all of us for the record not just self employed.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Dec 17 4.07pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

The self employed working for an 'employer' are not the ones who could get away with it so easily
The one man bands working for us and the public can cook the books if they want to.
Lots of greenbacks being paid out and how can that be monitored.
Trust and honour disappear where money is involved.
That's all of us for the record not just self employed.

COULDNT I MEANT

 

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View robdave2k's Profile robdave2k Flag 14 Dec 17 4.08pm Send a Private Message to robdave2k Add robdave2k as a friend

Originally posted by europalace

I think there should be a 30% witholding tax for the self employed deducted at source. When they fill in their tax return, they will be refunded or sent a further bill based on their income. That will stop the tax evasion by some self employed and put them on a temporary PAYE type arrangement. They'll pay the same tax due anyway, so no reason to complain about it.

Edited by europalace (14 Dec 2017 3.46pm)

There speaks someone who isn't self employed. And HMRC are moving towards quarterly bills with making tax digital. However HMRC being HMRC have made a total F******* of it. Along with the messed up IR35 regulations it's a melting pot of crap.

But with a 30% withholding tax herein lies the issue.

I send you a bill for £20k. I've got £20k of profit and the tax that comes associated with it.

However until you pay me I've got no cash.

Yes they should in an ideal world put a withholding tax on it like in the construction industry, but bearing in mind the amount of s*** genuine small businesses are having to put up with then the last thing you need to do is make life harder for them.

It won't hit people who evade tax (via cash in hand) as you will then be expecting householders (Joe Public) to deduct 30% and what are the odds of that getting paid over.

It won't affect the big companies as they will be exempt.

So what you will hit is the genuine self employed persons who are already at breaking point.

Personally I'd go for flat taxation system - and that's from someone who makes his living because tax is complicated.


 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Dec 17 4.08pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

COULDNT I MEANT

Wtf am I on
Sorry just like a keyboard warrior,

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag The garden of England 14 Dec 17 4.10pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by robdave2k

There speaks someone who isn't self employed. And HMRC are moving towards quarterly bills with making tax digital. However HMRC being HMRC have made a total F******* of it. Along with the messed up IR35 regulations it's a melting pot of crap.

But with a 30% withholding tax herein lies the issue.

I send you a bill for £20k. I've got £20k of profit and the tax that comes associated with it.

However until you pay me I've got no cash.

Yes they should in an ideal world put a withholding tax on it like in the construction industry, but bearing in mind the amount of s*** genuine small businesses are having to put up with then the last thing you need to do is make life harder for them.

It won't hit people who evade tax (via cash in hand) as you will then be expecting householders (Joe Public) to deduct 30% and what are the odds of that getting paid over.

It won't affect the big companies as they will be exempt.

So what you will hit is the genuine self employed persons who are already at breaking point.

Personally I'd go for flat taxation system - and that's from someone who makes his living because tax is complicated.


Said that earlier Rudi and solves many issues

 

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