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View tonypeers5's Profile tonypeers5 Flag Wallington 08 Jan 18 10.17am Send a Private Message to tonypeers5 Add tonypeers5 as a friend

I agree with most that staying up will take less than 40 points this season (38 I recon). That’s means we need 6 wins in the next 16 games, so if we keep up performances there’s no reason we can be safe by mid April.

With this in mind, do we go for points after this or blood in youth players to give us more depth for next season. Injuries have nearly killed us the last couple of seasons and we don’t have the best squad depth as we know, so why not blood in players under 21 that can stay in the squad but don’t need to be named in the 25. Also, we will have a number of players leaving in the Summer so need new blood to step up cause I’d rather we bought quality with a few academy stars than bought average players (I’m thinking players like Mutch, Lee, etc)

Thoughts? (And I know a number of fans will say it’s too early to think of this, just thinking long term)

 


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View dreamwaverider's Profile dreamwaverider Online Flag London 08 Jan 18 10.19am Send a Private Message to dreamwaverider Add dreamwaverider as a friend

I reckon 35 points will do it this year.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 08 Jan 18 10.29am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

What Academy stars? If they are good enough, they should be able to force their way into the team.
I can't see us giving them a start because we are safe, as each place in the final table is worth millions extra per position.

 

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View thai-eagle's Profile thai-eagle Flag chiang mai 08 Jan 18 10.40am Send a Private Message to thai-eagle Add thai-eagle as a friend

We may have some draws as well!

 

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View aashman12's Profile aashman12 Flag 08 Jan 18 10.41am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I reckon 35 points will do it this year.

We're 2 pts clear of the drop zone on 22 pts. Think it could be a high tally to stay up

 

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 08 Jan 18 10.46am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by dreamwaverider

I reckon 35 points will do it this year.

The average number of points required to remain in the PL (excluding the first two seasons, when there were 22 teams) is 37. There are only four points currently separating 11th from 18th. It could well be that this will be one of the seasons when more than 40 points are required if the table remains this tight; West Ham went down on 42 points and on three other occasions 40 or more has been required to stay up.

We should be looking to accumulate as many points as possible and, should we achieve mathematical safety before the last day of the season, every place in the table is worth around £1m. I trust Roy to include eligible players outside of the 25, IF they're good enough and not because of the points table.

 


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glaziermart Flag 08 Jan 18 11.06am

Originally posted by aashman12

We're 2 pts clear of the drop zone on 22 pts. Think it could be a high tally to stay up


No it won't be that high. 36 points needed max. Have a look at everyone's fixtures. There are a lot of teams near the bottom that have at least 4 fixtures against teams around them (i.e. the six pointer as they say) so that will cancel out one team (a draw would be even better!) plus both Swansea and West Brom only have 16 points at the moment, and their fixtures are pretty horrendous (especially Swansea) so i think both of them will be gone with a few games to spare, so there will probably only be one place in doubt, which we are more than good enough to avoid. Yes 36 points will do it, but we should be over 40 points anyway

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 08 Jan 18 11.12am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

The average number of points required to remain in the PL (excluding the first two seasons, when there were 22 teams) is 37. There are only four points currently separating 11th from 18th. It could well be that this will be one of the seasons when more than 40 points are required if the table remains this tight; West Ham went down on 42 points and on three other occasions 40 or more has been required to stay up.

We should be looking to accumulate as many points as possible and, should we achieve mathematical safety before the last day of the season, every place in the table is worth around £1m. I trust Roy to include eligible players outside of the 25, IF they're good enough and not because of the points table.

Each league place is worth £1.9 mil I think.

 


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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 08 Jan 18 11.15am Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by glaziermart


No it won't be that high. 36 points needed max. Have a look at everyone's fixtures. There are a lot of teams near the bottom that have at least 4 fixtures against teams around them (i.e. the six pointer as they say) so that will cancel out one team (a draw would be even better!) plus both Swansea and West Brom only have 16 points at the moment, and their fixtures are pretty horrendous (especially Swansea) so i think both of them will be gone with a few games to spare, so there will probably only be one place in doubt, which we are more than good enough to avoid. Yes 36 points will do it, but we should be over 40 points anyway

No one can say that with any certainty; it can only ever be an opinion until it's a mathematical fact.

 


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View MikeCrete's Profile MikeCrete Flag Crete 08 Jan 18 11.18am Send a Private Message to MikeCrete Add MikeCrete as a friend

I think as low as 34 could be enough this season; with the fixture list. As each place is worth £1.9m can see the club trying to finish as high up as possible; maybe blooding a few younger players over the last 3/4 games as subs. Should we be more adventurous? I would like to see the youngsters given some time in the games asap; espically Lokilo, Wan-Bissaka, Kirby.
We need to find out of they are good enough & as has been mentioned we have been found wanting over the last couple of seasons by injuries.

 

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View m/k mick's Profile m/k mick Flag milton keynes 08 Jan 18 11.52am Send a Private Message to m/k mick Add m/k mick as a friend

On the basis that 10 wins and 10 draws is enough to stay up, 40 points, we need 5 more wins and 3 draws, i would not like to speculate how many points are needed this year, just thankful that we have given ourselves a chance from a terrible beginning, i hope we come through tonight with no injuries or red cards, we could still get dragged into trouble if key players are unavailable for any reason, with everyone fit and able we can finish near top half,

 

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View Rainforest's Profile Rainforest Flag London England 08 Jan 18 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Rainforest Add Rainforest as a friend

The points gap of the bottom 10 teams is pretty tied. T this moment I wouldn't take 40 points as safe. I don't expect Swansea or West Brom to do a Sunderland. We should aim to win at least 8 of the remaining games.

 

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