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View raggy's Profile raggy Flag 05 Feb 18 10.54pm Send a Private Message to raggy Add raggy as a friend

Now, i love Roy as much as we all do, but i am starting to get the impression that his reluctance to make substitutions is a large factor behind our injury crisis.

While Wilf is an exempt case where we have to leave him on due to the fact that he offers so much late in games, the injury to Kelly for example seems to be due to fatigue.

While Roy is right in stating that many of our injuries are trauma related (Puncheon, Dann etc.), it would help if he gave players a rest now and again, even if it means bringing on an inexperienced U23's player. Loaning out Kaikai to Charlton already appears to be an error because although he is unproven, he is a consistent figure in the U23's and has played at Championship level.

My fear is that integral players such as Townsend or Cabaye may burn out late into the season, leaving as incredibly weak as a squad. While he is crucial to the team, Luka has also been playing non-stop since Roy came in and i do wonder whether he may run out of steam too.

Lets hope my fears don't bear fruit.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 05 Feb 18 10.59pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

It's interesting how the running out of steam metaphor prevails almost 50 years on from the last steam passenger train to run in Britain.

 


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View TheArmaniCode's Profile TheArmaniCode Flag 05 Feb 18 11.21pm Send a Private Message to TheArmaniCode Add TheArmaniCode as a friend

This has been a problem long before Roy came in. Including under Pardew, who often made at least one sub at the start of the second half.

Nope, I STILL stand by my claim that it's the medical staff that are the problem. And unless someone can point me to another factor, that's an opinion that I'll be keeping for a while

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 05 Feb 18 11.28pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by TheArmaniCode

This has been a problem long before Roy came in. Including under Pardew, who often made at least one sub at the start of the second half.

Nope, I STILL stand by my claim that it's the medical staff that are the problem. And unless someone can point me to another factor, that's an opinion that I'll be keeping for a while

So let me get this straight Zabaleta tackles Sako really hard and Sako breaks his ankle.
And you say it’s the medical staffs fault and not Steve Parish. ?

 


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chateauferret Flag 05 Feb 18 11.33pm

Originally posted by TheArmaniCode

This has been a problem long before Roy came in. Including under Pardew, who often made at least one sub at the start of the second half.

Nope, I STILL stand by my claim that it's the medical staff that are the problem. And unless someone can point me to another factor, that's an opinion that I'll be keeping for a while

This incidence of injury and occurring at about the same time in successive seasons cannot be a matter of chance. It's so far above average that (without doi g the math) it must amount to several standard deviations.

Doesn't mean it's the doctors but there has to be some sort of cause in the system somewhere. Perhaps doctors' advice not receiving sufficient weight?

Should have been investigated the first time but now just seems to be tolerated by the Board as a fact of life.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 05 Feb 18 11.37pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by raggy

Now, i love Roy as much as we all do, but i am starting to get the impression that his reluctance to make substitutions is a large factor behind our injury crisis.

While Wilf is an exempt case where we have to leave him on due to the fact that he offers so much late in games, the injury to Kelly for example seems to be due to fatigue.

While Roy is right in stating that many of our injuries are trauma related (Puncheon, Dann etc.), it would help if he gave players a rest now and again, even if it means bringing on an inexperienced U23's player. Loaning out Kaikai to Charlton already appears to be an error because although he is unproven, he is a consistent figure in the U23's and has played at Championship level.

My fear is that integral players such as Townsend or Cabaye may burn out late into the season, leaving as incredibly weak as a squad. While he is crucial to the team, Luka has also been playing non-stop since Roy came in and i do wonder whether he may run out of steam too.

Lets hope my fears don't bear fruit.

Perhaps his options on the bench have a lot to do with it !

And in the 'Transfer Window' we buy players who have not played since November and December ! And a centre-half who is probably 5th choice ! Contrast this with some of the purchases made by our relegation rivals, one of whom, Deulofeu scored tonight and was man of the match.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 11.39pm)

 

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View alaneagle1's Profile alaneagle1 Flag Dunstable,Bedfordshire.England 05 Feb 18 11.51pm Send a Private Message to alaneagle1 Add alaneagle1 as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Perhaps his options on the bench have a lot to do with it !

And in the 'Transfer Window' we buy players who have not played since November and December ! And a centre-half who is probably 5th choice ! Contrast this with some of the purchases made by our relegation rivals, one of whom, Deulofeu scored tonight and was man of the match.

Edited by Willo (05 Feb 2018 11.39pm)

Your example did very well tonight,against a Top 6 side,who fortunately for Watford tonight and the Cherries last week were more like a bottom 3 side.
I think Antonio will be sacked soon.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 06 Feb 18 12.02am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by alaneagle1

Your example did very well tonight,against a Top 6 side,who fortunately for Watford tonight and the Cherries last week were more like a bottom 3 side.
I think Antonio will be sacked soon.

I cannot recall seeing Chelsea play as poorly as they did tonight.They were shambolic.
And I wouldn't be surprised to see Conte relieved of his duties in the near future.

 

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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 06 Feb 18 12.22am Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by TheArmaniCode

This has been a problem long before Roy came in. Including under Pardew, who often made at least one sub at the start of the second half.

Nope, I STILL stand by my claim that it's the medical staff that are the problem. And unless someone can point me to another factor, that's an opinion that I'll be keeping for a while

So even when Roy himself tells us these injuries are all impact ones so can’t be prevented by training etc you still think it’s to do with the medical staff? The only one that could be considered as muscular and, therefore, possibly due to fatigue is Kelly’s - problem is, as has been pointed out, that was actually caused whilst he was being fouled.

From what I’ve seen, we pick up injuries when the team is playing flat out, fighting for survival. When the players are giving everything then they are more at risk of impact injuries.

It probably doesn’t help when officials seemingly think it’s ok to bully, kick & batter Palace players without adequate retribution. I don’t think it’s just us but if Pep thinks his prima-donnas get little protection then he should take a long look some of the blatant fouling we’ve seen this season.

 


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View Oliver's Profile Oliver Flag Bodega Bay 06 Feb 18 6.21am Send a Private Message to Oliver Add Oliver as a friend

I've got a theory how about just bad luck.

 


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Originally posted by Nobbybm

It probably doesn’t help when officials seemingly think it’s ok to bully, kick & batter Palace players without adequate retribution. I don’t think it’s just us but if Pep thinks his prima-donnas get little protection then he should take a long look some of the blatant fouling we’ve seen this season.

Like Puncheon's foul on de Bruyn you mean

 

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Originally posted by raggy

Now, i love Roy as much as we all do, but i am starting to get the impression that his reluctance to make substitutions is a large factor behind our injury crisis.

While Wilf is an exempt case where we have to leave him on due to the fact that he offers so much late in games, the injury to Kelly for example seems to be due to fatigue.

While Roy is right in stating that many of our injuries are trauma related (Puncheon, Dann etc.), it would help if he gave players a rest now and again, even if it means bringing on an inexperienced U23's player. Loaning out Kaikai to Charlton already appears to be an error because although he is unproven, he is a consistent figure in the U23's and has played at Championship level.

My fear is that integral players such as Townsend or Cabaye may burn out late into the season, leaving as incredibly weak as a squad. While he is crucial to the team, Luka has also been playing non-stop since Roy came in and i do wonder whether he may run out of steam too.

Lets hope my fears don't bear fruit.


Sorry but i'm not having that.

Professional,highly trained,in their prime,play for 90 mins of football a week,3/4 hours training a day and your saying that they should be rested now and again.

Your be asking for them to be paid a thousand pounds a week next for all their hard work and maybe a little bonus as well at the end of the season...Ooops

 

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