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View Jules111's Profile Jules111 Flag Preston, Lancashire 13 Feb 18 8.13pm Send a Private Message to Jules111 Add Jules111 as a friend

At the peak of their powers with us, which player has produced most for us?

In my opinion itís puncheon all day long, he single handedly kept us up the first season and was excellent the following seasons. I think due to the rapid decline in JPís performances fans forget how good he was.

I think Cabaye is a quality player but he has failed to live up to his reputation as our stellar signing.


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View d_stone85's Profile d_stone85 Flag south croydon 13 Feb 18 8.39pm Send a Private Message to d_stone85 Add d_stone85 as a friend

Truth is cabaye was past peak when he joined us. Best years at Lille and Newcastle. We caught punch in the the prime of his, heís done far more than cabaye for palace. But cabaye at his peak at Newcastle was a level above punch

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Feb 18 10.55pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Pucheon as a side midfielder. Cabaye as a central midfielder.

Puncheon had been amazing for a team like Palace on the right (mainly due to being left footed):

5 goals, 6 assists in 2100 minutes in 2012/13 season
7 goals, 4 assists in 2500 minutes in 2013/14 season
6 goals, 7 assists in 2800 minutes in 2014/15 season
(There was strong talk of the national team and rightly so)

Moving him to the center was the worst idea ever:

2 goals, 3 assists in 2600 minutes in 2015/16 season
0 goals, 5 assists in 3700 minutes since then

Edited by mattteo (13 Feb 2018 10.56pm)

 

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 13 Feb 18 11.11pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

OP makes a great point. I really rate Cabaye and probably the better player all told but when Puncheon was on it for us, he almost single handedly kept us up. Like a boss. So Iím voting JP.

I think weíre generally too soon to write players off but he has been poor of late, hopefully he can get back to somewhere near his best as a squad player for us.

 


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View pssguy's Profile pssguy Flag 14 Feb 18 9.54am Send a Private Message to pssguy Add pssguy as a friend

I think saying JP single-handedly kept us up is stretching it. He was our most effective creative player in 2013/14 but Pulis, Jedinal and the defence in the second half of the season can take a lot of credit

As the above figures indicate, he has been on a steady decline (in fact he was better at Southampton). Given his age and injury, I'd be surprised to see him play for the team again if we stay up

 

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View paperhat's Profile paperhat Flag wonderful croydon 14 Feb 18 9.57am Send a Private Message to paperhat Add paperhat as a friend

personally i'd get shot of both, replace with someone younger, harder, better.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 14 Feb 18 10.22am Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Puncheon played in a much worst team (in terms of individuals at least), so not surprising he stood out. But would agree his contribution at Palace has been greater.

In terms of actual ability however, it's a no brainer IMO; you only have to look at what they've each achieved in their careers...

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 14 Feb 18 8.24pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Puncheonís goals and set piece delivery in big games were one of the main reasons we stayed up first two seasons. A superb Holloway and Parish signing. Cabaye a better CM and footballer but has had less impact overall for us IMO.

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 15 Feb 18 9.23am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Pucheon as a side midfielder. Cabaye as a central midfielder.

Puncheon had been amazing for a team like Palace on the right (mainly due to being left footed):

5 goals, 6 assists in 2100 minutes in 2012/13 season
7 goals, 4 assists in 2500 minutes in 2013/14 season
6 goals, 7 assists in 2800 minutes in 2014/15 season
(There was strong talk of the national team and rightly so)

Moving him to the center was the worst idea ever:

2 goals, 3 assists in 2600 minutes in 2015/16 season
0 goals, 5 assists in 3700 minutes since then

Edited by mattteo (13 Feb 2018 10.56pm)

He was pardewed. ..who in their right mind would try and make puncheon a defensive central midfielder. Ruined him.

 

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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 15 Feb 18 9.25am Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by paperhat

personally i'd get shot of both, replace with someone younger, harder, better.

That wasn't the question. ..

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 15 Feb 18 9.39am Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

this thread should be put in the sentimental history section. Sadly, one of these players is completely shot and the other is rapidly losing popularity among fans.

the Prem is ruthless. Lets thank the two boys for some good performances and go and recruit some hungry 21 year olds.

 


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View ex hibitionist's Profile ex hibitionist Flag Hastings 15 Feb 18 9.45am Send a Private Message to ex hibitionist Add ex hibitionist as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

this thread should be put in the sentimental history section. Sadly, one of these players is completely shot and the other is rapidly losing popularity among fans.

the Prem is ruthless. Lets thank the two boys for some good performances and go and recruit some hungry 21 year olds.


agreed

 

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