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View Jacey's Profile Jacey Flag 12 Mar 18 9.58am Send a Private Message to Jacey Add Jacey as a friend

What a difference Coleman has made with Sunderland losing yet again on Saturday,being firmly rooted at the bottom of the table and again suffering yet another injury to our Johnny.
Not looking good for their survival hopes and I question Coleman's motivation in taking that particular job with other options available at the time.

 

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View Lakeview's Profile Lakeview Flag Lincoln 12 Mar 18 10.09am Send a Private Message to Lakeview Add Lakeview as a friend

Maybe it was bravery (if not, then arrogance) to believe he could achieve what others have failed to do in recent years. Sunderland have far greater potential and heritage than most of the struggling clubs around them, but they are just one more example of how status is not permanent in football and parachute payments and good crowds often don't save clubs in decline. Similarly, Pullis going to Boro was questioned by some, but they too could rise or sink depending on investment and desire. The unpredictability of relegated clubs' fate is another thing that makes this country's football fascinating.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 10.15am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

What a difference Coleman has made with Sunderland losing yet again on Saturday,being firmly rooted at the bottom of the table and again suffering yet another injury to our Johnny.
Not looking good for their survival hopes and I question Coleman's motivation in taking that particular job with other options available at the time.

Coleman joined when they were bottom and after 19 PL games they are still bottom.

The only players he has been able to sign are 'Loanees' and a free agent.Thought he might hang around for the Swansea job as they were struggling and the chances were they would make a change but in November he took on the really tough job at Sunderland.Swansea replaced their manager in December.

Despite their parlous position they have been getting crowds of 27/28,000.We certainly wouldn't getting anything like that number if we were in their position.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Mar 18 10.29am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

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Despite their parlous position they have been getting crowds of 27/28,000.We certainly wouldn't getting anything like that number if we were in their position.

They have over 22,000 season ticket holders, which is pretty impressive but if they include all season ticket holders in the attendance figures then the real number is probably a lot lower although impressive considering their predicament. The advantage of being a one club city.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 10.34am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

They have over 22,000 season ticket holders, which is pretty impressive but if they include all season ticket holders in the attendance figures then the real number is probably a lot lower although impressive considering their predicament. The advantage of being a one club city.

Middlesbrough are a one-club city but they don't enjoy the same support as Sunderland, getting around 23,000 and they are challenging for promotion.But both Newcastle and Sunderland have always been bigger clubs than Middlesbrough.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Mar 18 10.45am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Middlesbrough are a one-club city but they don't enjoy the same support as Sunderland, getting around 23,000 and they are challenging for promotion.But both Newcastle and Sunderland have always been bigger clubs than Middlesbrough.

Isn't the Middlesbrough population half the that of Sunderland? If so, 23k is pretty decent.

 


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View matthau's Profile matthau Flag South Croydon 12 Mar 18 10.55am Send a Private Message to matthau Add matthau as a friend

The difference is of course, there's not much else to do up there. Also there is alot more unemployment. They can save together anything they can for a match ticket just like I do for the palace.

But I have London on me doorstep, more employment opportunities which lead to a more varied social life.

Times are changing down south, gyms and coffee shops are replacing back Street pubs, people are becoming more health conscious. It's kind of happening up north though not as much. Pub culture still exists in a big way.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 10.57am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by topcat

Isn't the Middlesbrough population half the that of Sunderland? If so, 23k is pretty decent.

I don't know the populations but certainly the North-East is a real hotbed of football.

Middlesbrough's average attendance last season was around 30,000 which isn't bad for a team that got relegated.

Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2018 11.00am)

 

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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 12 Mar 18 2.42pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Jacey

What a difference Coleman has made with Sunderland losing yet again on Saturday,being firmly rooted at the bottom of the table and again suffering yet another injury to our Johnny.
Not looking good for their survival hopes and I question Coleman's motivation in taking that particular job with other options available at the time.

I put my thoughts on that in this thread. [Link]
Not that I questioned his motivation, I put it straight down to a huge cash bonus.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 12 Mar 18 2.46pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I don't know the populations but certainly the North-East is a real hotbed of football.

Middlesbrough's average attendance last season was around 30,000 which isn't bad for a team that got relegated.

Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2018 11.00am)

It's also not a hotbed for absolutely anything else.

Sunderland have chose to close their upper tier to home fans now, as it'll save them stewarding costs. They had the foresight of calling this tier "the Premier concourse".

 


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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag glorious Goring by sea 12 Mar 18 3.04pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

thank god coleman didn't end up here.
a good few wanted him.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Mar 18 3.26pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

It's also not a hotbed for absolutely anything else.

Sunderland have chose to close their upper tier to home fans now, as it'll save them stewarding costs. They had the foresight of calling this tier "the Premier concourse".

Some of the stands are two-tiered and some three-tiered.
Ground capacity of some 48,000 but they are getting 27/28,000 this season which is the 4th highest average in the Championship.
Last season in the PL they averaged some 41,000 which was the 7th highest.Terrific support for a struggling team both last season and this.


Edited by Willo (12 Mar 2018 3.30pm)

 

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