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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 27 Apr 18 3.09pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

A coroner in London has been told that she is unlawful for dealing with her cases on a chronological basis.

She's been told that Jewish and Muslim deaths must take priority.

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View CambridgeEagle's Profile CambridgeEagle Flag Sydenham 27 Apr 18 3.21pm Send a Private Message to CambridgeEagle Add CambridgeEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

A coroner in London has been told that she is unlawful for dealing with her cases on a chronological basis.

She's been told that Jewish and Muslim deaths must take priority.

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In fairness, if someone has a good reason for an inquiry to be held sooner, then I don't see why that shouldn't be permitted. Seems a bit lazy and jobsworthy to just do things in the order the come in irrespective of need or preference. As long as everyone has the right to ask for reasonable expediency I don't see the problem, and I agree she shouldn't have been so rigid and dogmatic.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Apr 18 3.25pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

This is a secular country.

What the feck is going on?

Our judicially is completely cucked. Fining girls for rap lyrics and forcing priorities for coroners based upon beliefs in fairy tales.


Edited by Stirlingsays (27 Apr 2018 4.15pm)

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 27 Apr 18 3.27pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

In fairness, if someone has a good reason for an inquiry to be held sooner, then I don't see why that shouldn't be permitted. Seems a bit lazy and jobsworthy to just do things in the order the come in irrespective of need or preference. As long as everyone has the right to ask for reasonable expediency I don't see the problem, and I agree she shouldn't have been so rigid and dogmatic.

It should be you who writes to the families telling them that it's ok that their loved one is seen later because you think someone's particular religious belief is more important than their beliefs or lack of one.

I know what my reply to you would be.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 27 Apr 18 3.37pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

In fairness, if someone has a good reason for an inquiry to be held sooner, then I don't see why that shouldn't be permitted. Seems a bit lazy and jobsworthy to just do things in the order the come in irrespective of need or preference. As long as everyone has the right to ask for reasonable expediency I don't see the problem, and I agree she shouldn't have been so rigid and dogmatic.

Religion isn't a good reason.

Isn't burying/cremating someone about closure? Why should one set of people have to wait longer because they don't believe in fairy stories? Or the right fairy stories?

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 27 Apr 18 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

A coroner in London has been told that she is unlawful for dealing with her cases on a chronological basis.

She's been told that Jewish and Muslim deaths must take priority.

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I don't agree with this. So she was discriminatory for telling people they should wait their turn. The courts solution is to allow people of certain faiths to queue jump and that's not discriminatory?

Anyone who has a loved one that dies and it needs to be investigated wants this done as quickly as possible. Why should a secular person be discriminated against in favour of a religious group?

The only queue jumping should be where the authorities have asked for it e.g. the police believe someone has been murdered and they need to get an investigation started.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 27 Apr 18 3.53pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by CambridgeEagle

In fairness, if someone has a good reason for an inquiry to be held sooner, then I don't see why that shouldn't be permitted. Seems a bit lazy and jobsworthy to just do things in the order the come in irrespective of need or preference. As long as everyone has the right to ask for reasonable expediency I don't see the problem, and I agree she shouldn't have been so rigid and dogmatic.

You have finally lost it.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag Living The Dream 27 Apr 18 4.49pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Simple - If you're terminally ill, become a Muslim.
Sorted.

 

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View Mr_Gristle's Profile Mr_Gristle Flag In the land of Whelk Eaters 02 May 18 8.56pm Send a Private Message to Mr_Gristle Add Mr_Gristle as a friend

Originally posted by Stuk

Religion isn't a good reason.

Isn't burying/cremating someone about closure? Why should one set of people have to wait longer because they don't believe in fairy stories? Or the right fairy stories?

Absolutely. Doing cases in date order - unless the judicial system has an interest - surely is the only way? Bloody monotheists.

 


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View Stuk's Profile Stuk Flag Top half 02 May 18 11.00pm Send a Private Message to Stuk Add Stuk as a friend

Originally posted by Mr_Gristle

Absolutely. Doing cases in date order - unless the judicial system has an interest - surely is the only way? Bloody monotheists.

She has been done for "discrimination" for not discriminating.

It's properly f***ed up. You want it expedited you hire a private one, at your expenses.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 03 May 18 1.17am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

It's like an April fool's story....A dark thought tells me that possibly the reason no decision makers are prepared to put an end to this ridiculous criticism is because they don't wish to be identified as the person who says 'this is nonsense'.

Similar to the fear of criticizing sections of communities that we saw with institutions over the rape of working class vulnerable girls.

 


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Under Jewish and Islamic law, bodies must be buried on the day of death or as soon as possible afterwards. Which is what was happening.

This case has nothing to do with the rights of the dead but Ms Van Der Zyl and The Board of Deputies of British Jews wanting preferential treatment for Jews.

Not content with (ridiculously) winning their case, they want the coroner to resign for doing her job.

I am starting a new religion which only belief is that when I die The Board of Deputies of British Jews have to pay for my funeral and wake. For them not to would be against my human rights.

 


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