General summer 2018 transfer window discussion
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 Ginger Pubic Wig  Wickham de L'Ouest 11 May 18 2.41pm |
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I hope it's okay to post this here, as a single location for discussion about this summer's transfer window. Apologies if it's not - the moderators can lock it. What do people think our net spend this summer will be? I saw one post suggesting we're already up against the FFP buffers and so players will have to leave before others join. I feel that's pessimistic, but I could easily see a net spend of, say, only £10 million. That sort of outlay might not be super appealing to the likes of Wilf. Broadly speaking, what do you think a genuinely realistic window looks like for us? We're clearly still not fantastic at scouting -- but then again when you look at the teams struggling, you realize it's a harder skill than many would credit. If we're recruiting, what sort of expenditures do you think we need for the positions in question? And do you think we will actually spend that money?
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Mwncisee Online  Middlesbrough 11 May 18 2.58pm |
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I think the reality is that FFP does hit us hard and I think many fans find this hard to take. I think it is FFP that is capping our transfer activity and not Parrish as many on here would like to believe. It harks back to the January of Big Sam when he bought in Sakho, Schlupp, PVA and Milivojevic. I seem to recall it being said we spent the following summers transfer budget then. We have been paying back for this ever since and culminated in the January's window in which only Sorloth was bought in, much to many's disgust. People were clamoring we spend an extra 4-8 mill to bring Guiata in earlier than the end of the contract and we didn't (probably due to cost and it has certainly proved the right decision as we have not been relegated due to WH). So, we have a lot of `deadwood` in the squad and it has proved difficult to clear these out: Lee, Mutch etc. A lot will depend on how much wages can be shed by not renewing contracts and if we can actually ell any fringe players.
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pssguy  11 May 18 4.08pm |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
I hope it's okay to post this here, Well there is a whole 'transfer talk' section where it might be more fitting
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| Ginger Pubic Wig Wickham de L'Ouest 11 May 18 4.10pm |
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ha! that's where i did post it and a mod moved it. so there
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| pssguy 11 May 18 4.14pm |
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Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig
ha! that's where i did post it and a mod moved it. so there LOL! Well they have set up a Transfer section where discussion of half the moves i.e. outwards
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| Bangell Oxford 11 May 18 4.45pm |
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Depends on contracts - it would be a bit burdensome to extend Cabaye's contract at this point in his career, but you can't replace him with someone of similar quality without spending a fair amount either. If Kelly and Ward are released as well, we'll look a bit thin at the back.
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| Mwncisee Online Middlesbrough 11 May 18 5.23pm |
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Reported wages that are coming to an end are: Julian Speroni £25,000 Total of £345,000 per week which is 17.9 mill in wages over a year. Obviously I doubt we will drop all of them but for me I'd say at only 20,000 a week WH would be worth keeping. I think Ward and Kelly should be released, we can use AWB and Jach to replace them Damo and Speroni, Love u guys but your time is up. If we can I'd keep Cabaye. Lee and Sako to go (Especially considering Sako's massive wage. Edited by Mwncisee (11 May 2018 5.26pm)
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| Midlands Eagle 11 May 18 5.29pm |
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Originally posted by Mwncisee
I think Ward and Kelly should be released, we can use AWB and Jach to replace them If Jach is a suitable replacement for Kelly why hasn't Roy had him in the squad If we let Ward go who will understudy AWB as you are letting Kelly go too
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| Mwncisee Online Middlesbrough 11 May 18 5.34pm |
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Originally posted by Midlands Eagle
If Jach is a suitable replacement for Kelly why hasn't Roy had him in the squad If we let Ward go who will understudy AWB as you are letting Kelly go too I think we would look to bring in new squad players with potential to develop. Ward has been a great servant to the club but we have seen with AWB's recent inclusion we have a just as good replacement for him who has further potential to develop. As for Jach I expect he has been bought with the future in mind and he has been integrated into the squad, although I do admit I had expected him to at least have made an appearance on the bench. But Kelly isn't getting any younger and his value will just diminish and we may as well use his wages to get someone who has potential to improve.
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| serial thriller The Promised Land 11 May 18 5.57pm |
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Am I the only one who doesn’t feel we need a lot? A bit of continuity would be very welcome after recent summers. Guaita and an attack mid - Shaquiri would be the dream - and I think we’d be in a very strong position going in to next season.
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| Mwncisee Online Middlesbrough 11 May 18 6.06pm |
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Originally posted by serial thriller
Am I the only one who doesn’t feel we need a lot? A bit of continuity would be very welcome after recent summers. Guaita and an attack mid - Shaquiri would be the dream - and I think we’d be in a very strong position going in to next season. I agree with you. I see this summer as an oportunity to release some funds from squad players and get in replacements with potential. Would like to see as you have said an attacking midfielder but also a young understudy to Zaha/Townsend. Apart from that nothing else needed assuming we decide to stick with Tekkers rather than cut our losses with him.
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| Palace in the Blood 11 May 18 6.07pm |
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Originally posted by Mwncisee
Reported wages that are coming to an end are: Julian Speroni £25,000 Total of £345,000 per week which is 17.9 mill in wages over a year. Obviously I doubt we will drop all of them but for me I'd say at only 20,000 a week WH would be worth keeping. I think Ward and Kelly should be released, we can use AWB and Jach to replace them Damo and Speroni, Love u guys but your time is up. If we can I'd keep Cabaye. Lee and Sako to go (Especially considering Sako's massive wage. Edited by Mwncisee (11 May 2018 5.26pm) We need at least 2 RB and by releasing Ward and Kelly. we will only have 1 so would have to recruit and pay higher wages. Kelly can also play across defence and with Dann out with a serious injury and Damo going We should keep. Ward is currently injured so will not find another club so in view of his service/loyalty I feel it would be heartless not to offer extension. In my view both will be offered new contracts. Julian Speroni will go Wayne Hennessey is talking about a new contract Cavilleri will probably go too Damien Delaney will go. Timothy Fosu-Mensah will return to Man U and has not been a first team regular recently Lee Chung-Yong will go Rakip who knows? Strange decision to get on loan and not play. That leaves Yohan Cabaye who will be offered a new lower contract but may not accept Ruben Loftus-Cheek I think we will try to keep if he goes to World Cup he may be too expensive. Other Players who may go are Souare (do we need 3 Left Backs), Mutch (has effectively gone he is on loan (some or all of wages covered) till end of year with a right to buy), Puncheon is also likely to leave. I can't see If Cabaye and RLC leave we will need to purchase replacements We need a 3rd Keeper Is Wilf now going play off the striker? If so we need a replacement on wings and cover for Andros It may be a busy summer
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