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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Nov 18 10.14am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In my humble opinion, the HF made a calculated decision not to continue as before on the basis that their support would be missed by the club, giving them the leverage to get what they want.

The narrative appears to be that the HF have thrown toys out of pram by their actions,forced the hand of Steve Parish, got what they desired and as a result forced out loyal and long-standing season ticket holders and this whole matter has proved very divisive amongst our fan base.

Or they simply proved their point. Their influence has been seen to be far greater than I think any of us had realised.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Nov 18 10.15am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I get the impression that long-standing loyal season-ticket holders who will not be able to avail of the seats they have occupied for several years would consider they have been "Forced out".

I ain't leaving

Full stop

They can join in with my singing, I am cool with that

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Nov 18 11.05am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

Or they simply proved their point. Their influence has been seen to be far greater than I think any of us had realised.

Yes, part of me changing my mind.

I was never against them. I just didnít like some of the songs, the police escorts they couldíve broken rather than waited for, things like that. But a lot of that is young football fan groups anyway. They act differently when thereís no police protection. Most of them do. The black clothing has never bothered me.

As annoying as many view it, I now also think the drum is necessary in all seater stadia to create an atmosphere. The out of time chanting proves that and means people stop and it fizzles out compared to with the drum when certain songs (not SE25 and la la la la Crystal Palace) donít.


Edited by Rudi Hedman (01 Nov 2018 11.11am)

 


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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 01 Nov 18 12.08pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

People worried about out of time chanting and drums ?
It beggars belief.
The football seems like a side show to some.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 01 Nov 18 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

People worried about out of time chanting and drums ?
It beggars belief.
The football seems like a side show to some.

You are so right

The singing is much more fun than most of the football we have been playing

Sadly neither the football nor the singing is up to scratch at the moment

 

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View PZ Eagle's Profile PZ Eagle Flag Penzance 01 Nov 18 12.30pm Send a Private Message to PZ Eagle Add PZ Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by bicycle repair man

People worried about out of time chanting and drums ?
It beggars belief.
The football seems like a side show to some.

I sometimes wonder whether those HF lovers would rather have this, so called, fantastic atmosphere and see us lose than not much atmosphere and see us win.

 


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View turbohorsebox's Profile turbohorsebox Flag Coulsdon 01 Nov 18 12.42pm Send a Private Message to turbohorsebox Add turbohorsebox as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

In my humble opinion, the HF made a calculated decision not to continue as before on the basis that their support would be missed by the club, giving them the leverage to get what they want.

The narrative appears to be that the HF have thrown toys out of pram by their actions,forced the hand of Steve Parish, got what they desired and as a result forced out loyal and long-standing season ticket holders and this whole matter has proved very divisive amongst our fan base.

I have to say, for once I think Willo has nailed it.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 01 Nov 18 1.30pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by PZ Eagle

I sometimes wonder whether those HF lovers would rather have this, so called, fantastic atmosphere and see us lose than not much atmosphere and see us win.

Football was never a sedentary sport. The Taylor report intended it to be, but it isnít, and it can be safe without sitting still on your hands, or with some clappers in your hands.

 


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View PalacePhotoMan's Profile PalacePhotoMan Flag Wallington 01 Nov 18 3.07pm Send a Private Message to PalacePhotoMan Add PalacePhotoMan as a friend

"Forced out", sonny Jim. Forced out.

As of yet we haven't been "shifted" anywhere. They don't know where they're shifting us to yet. They've not worked it out. 400 seats in a ground with 92% season ticket renewals isn't an easy one to fix, poor loves.

And I may sit in E Block but I don't yet have a "thermos and blanket". Or a prawn sandwich.

I don't blame the HF for this, there's only one man to blame, the first CPFC chairman to drive a wedge through Palace fans.

 


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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 01 Nov 18 3.29pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Originally posted by PalacePhotoMan

"Forced out", sonny Jim. Forced out.

As of yet we haven't been "shifted" anywhere. They don't know where they're shifting us to yet. They've not worked it out. 400 seats in a ground with 92% season ticket renewals isn't an easy one to fix, poor loves.

And I may sit in E Block but I don't yet have a "thermos and blanket". Or a prawn sandwich.

I don't blame the HF for this, there's only one man to blame, the first CPFC chairman to drive a wedge through Palace fans.


Yes there are a lot of cheap jibes from the HF mob,aimed at fellow Palace fans.
Parish has shown great weakness in caving in to their demands.
I wonder if he had turned them down what the HF would have done,would these diehard "fanatics" have flounced off completely.

 

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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Normandy 01 Nov 18 4.46pm Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

I don't personally know any of the HF or any of the fans that may be displaced by the current initiative. What I do know is that our fans have never been noisier nor the atmosphere better at Selhurst since the HF started doing their thing. They are currently greatly missed, although last weekend's effort to organise fans in the Arthur was fairly good.

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When I watch videos such as this I'm very proud of what the fans have done, and I'm proud to be associated with this club. I've been going to Selhurst since 1967 and what the HF have achieved over the past few years is better by miles than anything previously. The displays are excellent and would not have happened without the HF, even though many others participate, obviously.

So I can see a great future ahead once the HF are relocated into the middle of the lower Holmesdale, as it's fair to assume that the displays will only get bigger and better. I think it's crazy to say that the HF are an embarrassment, other fans are just jealous of what we have (when it's good).

Yes, I do feel sorry for the fans that need to move to allow this development to happen, and the club needs to do everything it can to accommodate them wherever they wish to go, but nobody is forcing them out, just asking them to move. Or they can stay and join in with the HF.

 

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View bicycle repair man's Profile bicycle repair man 01 Nov 18 5.18pm Send a Private Message to bicycle repair man Add bicycle repair man as a friend

Originally posted by Sansbup

I don't personally know any of the HF or any of the fans that may be displaced by the current initiative. What I do know is that our fans have never been noisier nor the atmosphere better at Selhurst since the HF started doing their thing. They are currently greatly missed, although last weekend's effort to organise fans in the Arthur was fairly good.

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When I watch videos such as this I'm very proud of what the fans have done, and I'm proud to be associated with this club. I've been going to Selhurst since 1967 and what the HF have achieved over the past few years is better by miles than anything previously. The displays are excellent and would not have happened without the HF, even though many others participate, obviously.

So I can see a great future ahead once the HF are relocated into the middle of the lower Holmesdale, as it's fair to assume that the displays will only get bigger and better. I think it's crazy to say that the HF are an embarrassment, other fans are just jealous of what we have (when it's good).

Yes, I do feel sorry for the fans that need to move to allow this development to happen, and the club needs to do everything it can to accommodate them wherever they wish to go, but nobody is forcing them out, just asking them to move. Or they can stay and join in with the HF.


"Just asking them to move"???
Like they have a choice.
I would dispute the fact Palace fans have never been noisier.There has been plenty of noise during our various play off campaigns, and relegation battles,pre HF.

 

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