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View si_1967's Profile si_1967 Flag Surrey 04 Jan 19 12.38pm Send a Private Message to si_1967 Add si_1967 as a friend

I know I can't stop it but this phrase 'we're going backwards' just doesn't really add up to me!

A few stats simply back that up, just by looking at previous seasons at this stage it's clear we're in a better position than in all but 1 season.

I know you can prove anything we stats, but i'll add them purely for debating purposes, make of them what you will!

At this stage ie matchweek 21 we've only been in a better position in 1 season 15/16 and that year we ended up in fifteenth with a goal difference of -12

Yes we can do better, and also improve the side but surely it's not as bad as some people seem to think!

Attachment: Matchweek 21.xls (24.50Kb)

 


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View johnmcormick8's Profile johnmcormick8 Flag Brundish 04 Jan 19 12.46pm Send a Private Message to johnmcormick8 Add johnmcormick8 as a friend

Its not its is down to IMO the hype of the prem, we should be doing this, we should buying him etc. We are punching way above our weight by staying in the prem we are not unlike west brom, cardiff,dare i say it brighton. A Family locally based non global team un like man u liverpool arsenal etc etc. Enjoy the rollercoast ride and be done with it.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 04 Jan 19 12.53pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Not much has changed in facilities though. Most Championship sides have a better match day experience than us. Would love to see the main stand actually started rather than talked about. I will be over at Anfield next week - talk about chalk and cheese. Can get a beer or food whenever you like more or less. Only once did I get a beer at Selhurst and waited so long that I missed our inevitable loss. Plus it was warm. Once ate a hot dog and chips at Selhurst - never again.

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View bexleydave's Profile bexleydave Flag Barnehurst 04 Jan 19 1.02pm Send a Private Message to bexleydave Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add bexleydave as a friend

Originally posted by johnmcormick8

Its not its is down to IMO the hype of the prem, we should be doing this, we should buying him etc. We are punching way above our weight by staying in the prem we are not unlike west brom, cardiff,dare i say it brighton. A Family locally based non global team un like man u liverpool arsenal etc etc. Enjoy the rollercoast ride and be done with it.

We certainly are. They have a new stadium, a top class academy, superior facilities and a wealthy owner who's prepared to put his hand in his pocket. They aren't maxed out on wages and their team didn't cost anywhere near what ours has cost.

 


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View Beastie's Profile Beastie Flag 04 Jan 19 1.22pm Send a Private Message to Beastie Add Beastie as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

We certainly are. They have a new stadium, a top class academy, superior facilities and a wealthy owner who's prepared to put his hand in his pocket. They aren't maxed out on wages and their team didn't cost anywhere near what ours has cost.

Well they had that in League 1. We got promoted out of nowhere and have had a job just to maintain premier league status.

With where both clubs were in 2013 itís amazing we havenít been eclipsed by them. Instead, weíve had the upper hand virtually the whole time.

 

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chateauferret Flag 04 Jan 19 1.28pm

Worth observing that we're coming out of Christmas without looking like a war hospital for the first time in a few years. Last year we lost Puncheon and Dann long-term in a single match at this point in proceedings. Currently nobody injured although granted Wickham and Benteke are only just coming back from long-term issues. I think at one point last winter we had something like ten men injured including Sakho and Wilf.

Touch wood...

 


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chateauferret Flag 04 Jan 19 1.30pm

Originally posted by bexleydave

We certainly are. They have a new stadium, a top class academy, superior facilities and a wealthy owner who's prepared to put his hand in his pocket. They aren't maxed out on wages and their team didn't cost anywhere near what ours has cost.

Weed also have deluded customers instead of fans, an atmosphere like a hospital, the police force from hell and a bunch of thuggish cloggers in their defence. I know where I'd rather be.

 


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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 04 Jan 19 1.33pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Good post OP. It kind of echos my sentiments in other posts.

I think the issue is that it is so difficult for us to move forward, I mean, what is moving forward anyway? We have signed players on big money to take us forward from where we were a few years ago and until we move them on we cannot really sign more.

The frustration for me is the off field stuff. I do think we should have done better there. On field, I am still pinching myself. 3 wins and 2 draws in our next 10 and we should be set up to be comfortably clear of relegation.

 

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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 04 Jan 19 1.35pm Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by bexleydave

We certainly are. They have a new stadium, a top class academy, superior facilities and a wealthy owner who's prepared to put his hand in his pocket. They aren't maxed out on wages and their team didn't cost anywhere near what ours has cost.

Ah another one. Our chairman isn't prepared to put his hand in his pocket despite our team being maxed out on wages and having cost a huge amount to put together.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 04 Jan 19 1.43pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Username

Ah another one. Our chairman isn't prepared to put his hand in his pocket despite our team being maxed out on wages and having cost a huge amount to put together.

Read what bexleydave posted in the context that it was posted in rather than taking it out of context to suit your agenda

 

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View Username's Profile Username Flag Horsham 04 Jan 19 1.50pm Send a Private Message to Username Add Username as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

Not much has changed in facilities though. Most Championship sides have a better match day experience than us. Would love to see the main stand actually started rather than talked about. I will be over at Anfield next week - talk about chalk and cheese. Can get a beer or food whenever you like more or less. Only once did I get a beer at Selhurst and waited so long that I missed our inevitable loss. Plus it was warm. Once ate a hot dog and chips at Selhurst - never again.

Edited by ASCPFC (04 Jan 2019 12.53pm)

'Not much has changed' - when are you comparing it to?

Since 2010 took over, at Selhurst we've upgraded the floodlights, the pitch (a couple of times) and drainage/heating, the TV/broadcasting/media facilities, the hospitality in the main stand (Speroni's/lounges etc) have all been updated, as have the exec boxes in the Whitehorse, we've got rid of all the old wooden seats and I think the dressing rooms etc have been sorted as well?

We've brought in electronic turnstiles which (despite much moaning on day one) seem to work well, and we have tried new catering options (in the upper tier at least) even if people aren't still that happy with them.

We've just acquired a long-term lease for the academy site, and while the main stand development is still in limbo, we have at least put together and submitted proper plans?

I agree there are still major issues with things like scouting in particular, but I imagine this is where we've been a bit hamstrung by not having a settled manager and DoF for a proper period of time. Hopefully that is changing, but it can't help when Pardew comes in and says he wants to change everything and then we have to get rid of him, Allardyce comes in and then leaves within six months etc.

I do think it's very, very unfair to say that nothing has changed though.

Anfield an interesting comparison given a) some people's experiences of it: [Link]

and b) the years (decades?) of planning a new stadium that then didn't happen before building the new main stand there.

These things don't just happen overnight, and I do think Palace have definitely been ticking things off where we can.

 


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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 04 Jan 19 1.52pm Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Definitely not going backwards. I think the frustration is that the starting 10 is the best we've had in the PL, but we screwed ourselves over by not signing that one final piece, the striker. The considerable number of 0s we've scored this season attests to our need. Thank goodness we've got Roy who can win with 6 midfielders.

 

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