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Palacesince64 Edinburgh 04 Feb 24 9.36am
Originally posted by Painter Benteke and Luka werent defenders, so whats your point? Anyway our key defensive lynch pin is out injured, Doucoure, its all gone tits up without him. Benteke was pretty much guaranteed to head the ball at corners at either end! He’d have made a decent centre half!
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Palacesince64

Edinburgh 04 Feb 24 9.36am

Originally posted by Painter

Benteke and Luka werent defenders, so whats your point?

Anyway our key defensive lynch pin is out injured, Doucoure, its all gone tits up without him.

Benteke was pretty much guaranteed to head the ball at corners at either end! He’d have made a decent centre half!

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southnorwoodhill 04 Feb 24 9.38am
Andersen and Guehi aren't as good as some initially thought. Slow and poor in the air. Add to this a keeper whose efforts to date are frankly risible, a left sided full back who keeps getting caught out with the ball to the back post, and we are where we are. At least there seems to be a positive in the right back position. It just goes to show the importance of Doucoure.
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Andersen and Guehi aren't as good as some initially thought. Slow and poor in the air. Add to this a keeper whose efforts to date are frankly risible, a left sided full back who keeps getting caught out with the ball to the back post, and we are where we are. At least there seems to be a positive in the right back position.
It just goes to show the importance of Doucoure.

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silvertop Portishead 04 Feb 24 9.46am
Amen. One of our posters commented that we had the best triangle of keeper and CBs in the league. What happened?
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silvertop

Portishead 04 Feb 24 9.46am

Amen.

One of our posters commented that we had the best triangle of keeper and CBs in the league.

What happened?

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Elpis In a pub 04 Feb 24 10.00am
Originally posted by antipodeagle That particular problem predates Roy. We were terrible from corners under PV as well. Roy hasn't been able to fix it. It started when PV changed our CB's from defenders to footballers .Possession football is all very well if you have got the ball ,its not a lot of cop when you haven't and your defenders can't defend . We not only concede easily at set pieces we never even win a header in open play . They are not the guys we need if we are parking the bus . Its pretty telling that after 10 years in the premier league not one of them gets anywhere near anyone's Palace best team . And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 04 Feb 24 10.00am

Originally posted by antipodeagle

That particular problem predates Roy. We were terrible from corners under PV as well. Roy hasn't been able to fix it.

It started when PV changed our CB's from defenders to footballers .Possession football is all very well if you have got the ball ,its not a lot of cop when you haven't and your defenders can't defend . We not only concede easily at set pieces we never even win a header in open play .
They are not the guys we need if we are parking the bus . Its pretty telling that after 10 years in the premier league not one of them gets anywhere near anyone's Palace best team .

And we still need a striker

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Elpis In a pub 04 Feb 24 10.09am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Andersen and Guehi aren't as good as some initially thought. Slow and poor in the air. Add to this a keeper whose efforts to date are frankly risible, a left sided full back who keeps getting caught out with the ball to the back post, and we are where we are. At least there seems to be a positive in the right back position. It just goes to show the importance of Doucoure. Fair enough but in defence of our full backs they are asked to defend very narrowly (to help the CB's) which does leave the back post exposed to a decent cross . As you say Munoz had it covered , but probably wasn't following the RH playbook as Anderson was all over the place with the space it created to his right . And we still need a striker
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Elpis

In a pub 04 Feb 24 10.09am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Fair enough but in defence of our full backs they are asked to defend very narrowly (to help the CB's) which does leave the back post exposed to a decent cross .
As you say Munoz had it covered , but probably wasn't following the RH playbook as Anderson was all over the place with the space it created to his right .

And we still need a striker

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slubglurge welling 04 Feb 24 3.54pm
On the first goal Andersen should have been goal side of Dunk but instead stood in front of him. Schoolboy defending
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welling 04 Feb 24 3.54pm

On the first goal Andersen should have been goal side of Dunk but instead stood in front of him. Schoolboy defending

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EddieMac 05 Feb 24 11.01am
Richards should get a chance now with MG injured. He can’t be any worse and may actually play into our favour as he is better in the air.
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EddieMac

05 Feb 24 11.01am

Richards should get a chance now with MG injured. He can’t be any worse and may actually play into our favour as he is better in the air.

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monkey Made in Bromley 05 Feb 24 11.25am
Originally posted by southnorwoodhill Andersen and Guehi aren't as good as some initially thought. Slow and poor in the air. Add to this a keeper whose efforts to date are frankly risible, a left sided full back who keeps getting caught out with the ball to the back post, and we are where we are. At least there seems to be a positive in the right back position. It just goes to show the importance of Doucoure. Been saying that for a long time, even before this poor run. They’re both excellent footballers,but as far as good old fashioned defending is concerned they can be pretty poor at times. Just shows how much protection Doucoure gave them. Also PV’s first season with Gallagher covering the miles in midfield and us always looking to be on the front foot their frailties didn’t show
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monkey

Made in Bromley 05 Feb 24 11.25am

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Been saying that for a long time, even before this poor run. They’re both excellent footballers,but as far as good old fashioned defending is concerned they can be pretty poor at times. Just shows how much protection Doucoure gave them. Also PV’s first season with Gallagher covering the miles in midfield and us always looking to be on the front foot their frailties didn’t show

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NEILLO Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Feb 24 11.29am
Originally posted by EddieMac Richards should get a chance now with MG injured. He can’t be any worse and may actually play into our favour as he is better in the air. Hmmm - remember the Emirates a couple of weeks ago ? Old, Ungifted and White
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NEILLO

Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Feb 24 11.29am

Originally posted by EddieMac

Richards should get a chance now with MG injured. He can’t be any worse and may actually play into our favour as he is better in the air.

Hmmm - remember the Emirates a couple of weeks ago ?

Old, Ungifted and White

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PatrickA London 05 Feb 24 11.38am
Ward has many detractors on here and there's no doubt that he's not an attacking threat nor, at his age, a long term solution. However, I would comtend we've missed his grit and defensive nous in recent games. He's usually a good penalty box defender who competes in the air and puts his body on the line to defend the goal. It's also evident that we've looked more ill at ease defensing set pieces in his absence.
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PatrickA

London 05 Feb 24 11.38am

Ward has many detractors on here and there's no doubt that he's not an attacking threat nor, at his age, a long term solution.
However, I would comtend we've missed his grit and defensive nous in recent games.
He's usually a good penalty box defender who competes in the air and puts his body on the line to defend the goal.
It's also evident that we've looked more ill at ease defensing set pieces in his absence.

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DenTyler Sidcup 05 Feb 24 1.14pm
Originally posted by PatrickA Ward has many detractors on here and there's no doubt that he's not an attacking threat nor, at his age, a long term solution. However, I would comtend we've missed his grit and defensive nous in recent games. He's usually a good penalty box defender who competes in the air and puts his body on the line to defend the goal. It's also evident that we've looked more ill at ease defensing set pieces in his absence. I was thinking the same thing. We need grit. He has more than the rest put together. Others would need to cover the miles but I wouldn’t be offended if he came back in.
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DenTyler

Sidcup 05 Feb 24 1.14pm

Originally posted by PatrickA

I was thinking the same thing. We need grit. He has more than the rest put together. Others would need to cover the miles but I wouldn’t be offended if he came back in.

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kevlee born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 05 Feb 24 1.19pm
Originally posted by EddieMac Richards should get a chance now with MG injured. He can’t be any worse and may actually play into our favour as he is better in the air. On his past performance he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the RB position! I still don't understand why he was put their in place of Clyne who had been playing well and who is very experienced. If JW is fit he should be playing. Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978
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kevlee

born Wandsworth emigrated to Lanc... 05 Feb 24 1.19pm

Originally posted by EddieMac

Richards should get a chance now with MG injured. He can’t be any worse and may actually play into our favour as he is better in the air.

On his past performance he shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the RB position!
I still don't understand why he was put their in place of Clyne who had been playing well and who is very experienced.
If JW is fit he should be playing.

Following Palace since 25 Feb 1978

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