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View Aray's Profile Aray Flag London 12 Jan 19 7.52am Send a Private Message to Aray Add Aray as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

Chance of Europe? Allardyce massively overachieved to get 8th, their fans are in the same league of delusion as Newcastle to believe they can better that. They'll scrape 9th after they sack Silva in the next month or so.

That may well be true but lets face it - their owners will fire a manager for not getting into the Europe, while Roy would be on a bus parade down North End if we got into the top half.

Their fans are deluded - not so Newcastle's I'd say. Wh

 

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chateauferret Flag 12 Jan 19 7.58am

Originally posted by Jimenez

Watford play it as well Ferret !!

Oh FFS. Why? I mean just why would you do that?

 


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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Flag Dartford 12 Jan 19 10.34am Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

Oh FFS. Why? I mean just why would you do that?

Because Watford have never done anything original? Well apart from banning the sale of alcohol in the away end.

I’d take Tosun btw - reckon BFS told him to say what he did about us to ingratiate himself with the EFC fans. It wasn’t long after he’d said he would have been a Palace player if things hadn’t been left too late for his club to replace him.

 


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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 12 Jan 19 10.49am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

He’s a good player.

Originally posted by Nobbybm

Because Watford have never done anything original? Well apart from banning the sale of alcohol in the away end.

I’d take Tosun btw - reckon BFS told him to say what he did about us to ingratiate himself with the EFC fans. It wasn’t long after he’d said he would have been a Palace player if things hadn’t been left too late for his club to replace him.

He’s a good player. The reason he didn’t come to Palace before as I understand it is because Palace went in for him too late in the transfer window and couldn’t get the paperwork done. Let bygones be bygones

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Online Flag Wantage 12 Jan 19 12.18pm Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

A lot of people claiming he's a good player, other than a scorcher in the champions League a couple of seasons ago, where's the evidence of this?
He scored 20 goals in 33 league games for Besiktas in his best ever season, which made up a third of the total goals he scored for them in all competitions over 142 games.

Outside of this, his stats aren't good, occasionally getting 10 league goals a season in inferior leagues. I've seen him play twice with my own eyes and cannot understand why he's even on the radar.

 

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View Sportyteacher's Profile Sportyteacher Flag London 13 Jan 19 7.55am Send a Private Message to Sportyteacher Add Sportyteacher as a friend

Everton happy to offload him for £20m:

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If true, what a bargain.

 

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View ARGILE OLD GEEZER's Profile ARGILE OLD GEEZER Flag PORTIMAO 13 Jan 19 8.20am Send a Private Message to ARGILE OLD GEEZER Add ARGILE OLD GEEZER as a friend

Originally posted by Sportyteacher

Everton happy to offload him for £20m:

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If true, what a bargain.

I presume thats a tongue in remark.

 

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View est1905's Profile est1905 Flag 13 Jan 19 6.21pm Send a Private Message to est1905 Add est1905 as a friend

Originally posted by MonsterMunch

When he joined Everton he said something along the lines of if Palace had made their offer sooner he would of joined us.

What he actually said was he was glad Palace dragged their feet as he didn't see Palace as a step up from Besiktas.


 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 13 Jan 19 6.46pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

If he is available for £20 million and we did put a bid in for him in the past then who knows, although I very much doubt the bid was anywhere near that amount when he was at Besiktas. Everton clearly paid too much at £27 million.

 


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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 13 Jan 19 8.05pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

Everton want £20 million? ... can't we sell Wickham to someone up north and put down the deposit?

 


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Jan 19 8.39pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by ChrisGC

A lot of people claiming he's a good player, other than a scorcher in the champions League a couple of seasons ago, where's the evidence of this?
He scored 20 goals in 33 league games for Besiktas in his best ever season, which made up a third of the total goals he scored for them in all competitions over 142 games.


27 year old player (peak of career) who is very strong and also runs a lot in open spaces. Works very much to pass the ball in front of the opposing net for other people to score too.

At top level (Premier League, Champions League and International) he has 20 goals and 6 assists in the last 2 seasons (that's 26 in 4000 minutes of gametime, a pretty awesome return)

In secondary competitions (Turkish Super Lig, the Europa League, the EFL Cup or the Turkish Cup) he has 23 goals and 5 assists (that's 28 in 4300 minutes and I'm excluding here 9 penalty goals that he converted)

Yeah, now that I look at it it doesn't seem amazing, but I mostly like him for his movement and dedication. Maybe not worth 20 million or even 15, but certainly one to be considered.

His 15/16 season, before the stats posted above, was amazing though, maybe he could get back to that form if he plats constantly and doesn't get so few minutes.

A loan with an option to buy would be good. You could certainly negociate 15 or below with Everton in the summer, even if it stipulates 20 million now.


Edited by mattteo (13 Jan 2019 8.41pm)

 

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Originally posted by mattteo


27 year old player (peak of career) who is very strong and also runs a lot in open spaces. Works very much to pass the ball in front of the opposing net for other people to score too.

At top level (Premier League, Champions League and International) he has 20 goals and 6 assists in the last 2 seasons (that's 26 in 4000 minutes of gametime, a pretty awesome return)

In secondary competitions (Turkish Super Lig, the Europa League, the EFL Cup or the Turkish Cup) he has 23 goals and 5 assists (that's 28 in 4300 minutes and I'm excluding here 9 penalty goals that he converted)

Yeah, now that I look at it it doesn't seem amazing, but I mostly like him for his movement and dedication. Maybe not worth 20 million or even 15, but certainly one to be considered.

His 15/16 season, before the stats posted above, was amazing though, maybe he could get back to that form if he plats constantly and doesn't get so few minutes.

A loan with an option to buy would be good. You could certainly negociate 15 or below with Everton in the summer, even if it stipulates 20 million now.


Edited by mattteo (13 Jan 2019 8.41pm)

Well argued, excellent post. Do you think we have representatives competent enough to secure the suggestion in bold?

I'm not confident.

 

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