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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 12 Jan 19 8.28pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Really

How many players has he used this season?
Back 4 AWB, Tomkins, Sakho, PVA started 19 times in Premier only injury caused change.
Midfield normally McA, Luka and Kouyate
Front. Zaha, Andros and one other.
We all know a main striker is the issue, his first choice Benteke has been injured for 20 games.

The last thing you can say is constantly changing line up, he is very constant.

Who do you regard a decent manager and why?

Today and Grimsby was 4-3-3. Wolves and Chelsea was 4-4-2. Man City was 4-5-1. He changes the formation almost everytime we win.

6 games at home this season.

He's had two transfer windows and has bought in Ayew and Sorloth up front.

But you are right. The big issue is who to replace him with.

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 12 Jan 19 8.29pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

He's another average manager, but probably the worst one we've had out of Pulis, Pardew and BFS.

He's got arguably the best team we've had since being promoted. People are criticising Parish and Freedman for transferes, but the manager should be jumping up and down to get decent players in.

I don't think Watford have better players than us. They just wanted it more. The pressed higher and showed more fight and desire.

Ayew has score in the last two, so probably deserves a start. But he was did absolutely nothing today and should have been dragged off earlier.

With the left back on a yellow, I don't understand why he took wilf off the wing, where he was tearing them apart, to a striker, a position he doesn't play. He had another striker on the bench, yet chose to bring on a winger. It doesn't make sense.

Our best play maker is mayer. He's not getting a look in. We've got 3 defensive midfielders on the pitch. None of which are great at creating chances and we didn't have a decent striker on. What was he thinking?

Benteke scored 17 prior to roys arrival had has score 3 since. It can't be all Christian's fault can it. We just aren't playing him to his strengths.

In the first half. We controlled possession. In the second half we went more attacking despite the fact we were winning and left use open at the back.

He is constantly changing the starting line up and formation. Surely he's worked out what works best by now?

I'm split between thinking we should keep him until the end of the season then look around for a decent manager, or just getting a new manager now.

This is how teams sleepwalk into relegation.

Rubbish post best summed up by your assertion that Meyer is our best playmaker. Wickham has looked unfit and off the pace. Also a very lazy, although talented before his injury.

Meyer has been poor and this is far from the best group of players we’ve had. We we’re beaten by a cynical but more talented team. We gave ourselves a chance but key moments didn’t go our way today.

 

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View deetee's Profile deetee Flag 12 Jan 19 9.19pm Send a Private Message to deetee Add deetee as a friend

Roy is a good manager - the players need to look at themselves especially the woeful wasteful attack.

 

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View timmyb's Profile timmyb Flag Banstead 12 Jan 19 9.29pm Send a Private Message to timmyb Add timmyb as a friend

This is remarkable thread.

A few weeks ago a team rhyming with Bristol Malice became the first team this season to beat Man City at home. They were also managed by one Roy Hodgson. It wasn't an accident - the only fluke was the second Citeh goal.

And the same club last year were rescued from the worst start to a top flight season in a century and went on to finish remarkably high up the Premier league all things considered.

The only thing I can agree with here is that Roy has brought some poor centre - forwards to the club. But then he might have been forgiven for thinking that in the £30m Benteke he already had a good one. And it wasn't his fault that one of his illustrious predecessors offloaded a man who is still scoring a decent number of goals for our South Coast rivals (continued on 94 other threads.)

Please let us not become the South East equivalent of the Geordie nation whose over-inflated expectations may be about to bring about NUFC's third relegation in a decade.

 

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View TheExpatEagle's Profile TheExpatEagle Flag 12 Jan 19 9.47pm Send a Private Message to TheExpatEagle Add TheExpatEagle as a friend

Originally posted by Slimey Toad

Even the League Cup, which was a great way for 2nd Division teams to play a final at Wembley is now the preserve of the elite, more or less.

Do you know how many 2nd tier teams have been in the League Cup final? Very few! There's been maybe 2 in 25 years and 10 tops since it was created in 1961.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jan 19 10.09pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

f*** sake...people on here annoy me.

i hope he stays for a few more years yet. not going down under roy thats for sure.

look at the bigger picture, we need his successor to work & learn alongside him for a few years...or get moyes in when he retires.

the grass defo isnt always greener on the other side, and its very important to remember that.

 


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View Tom-the-eagle's Profile Tom-the-eagle Flag Croydon 12 Jan 19 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Tom-the-eagle Add Tom-the-eagle as a friend

Originally posted by timmyb

This is remarkable thread.

A few weeks ago a team rhyming with Bristol Malice became the first team this season to beat Man City at home. They were also managed by one Roy Hodgson. It wasn't an accident - the only fluke was the second Citeh goal.

And the same club last year were rescued from the worst start to a top flight season in a century and went on to finish remarkably high up the Premier league all things considered.

The only thing I can agree with here is that Roy has brought some poor centre - forwards to the club. But then he might have been forgiven for thinking that in the £30m Benteke he already had a good one. And it wasn't his fault that one of his illustrious predecessors offloaded a man who is still scoring a decent number of goals for our South Coast rivals (continued on 94 other threads.)

Please let us not become the South East equivalent of the Geordie nation whose over-inflated expectations may be about to bring about NUFC's third relegation in a decade.


Problem is mate the lack of goals, particularly at home.

May have this wrong but I think today was our 11th home league game of the season, from which we have scored 5 goals, 2 of which were penalties. That means 3 goals from open play at home all season. Some teams score more than this in one game!

I'm not wanting Roy to go but something needs to change. I pay £900 a year for season tickets for my son and I and its getting to the point of not looking forward to go anymore.

I love our club massively but it would be nice to see the odd goal!

 


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View davidpercival's Profile davidpercival Flag Croydon 12 Jan 19 10.14pm Send a Private Message to davidpercival Add davidpercival as a friend

What rubbish. Schlupp is a decent player and he played OK when he came on. The defeat was nothing to do with him.

Talk of sacking Hodgson is ridiculous.The defence slipped up today. Apart from that it was a fair performance.

Originally posted by jerryleeboy

His inability to change, make the right subs at the right time has cost us many points this season....not saying the result would have different today, but please give us a chance. We all know Schlupp is next to useless.... we have Wickham who needs game time, plays Sørloth against Grimsby, when he knows he going on loan. I really hope I’m wrong, but he will cost us relegation if he stays

 

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chateauferret Flag 12 Jan 19 10.14pm

Originally posted by braunstoneagle

f*** sake...people on here annoy me.

i hope he stays for a few more years yet. not going down under roy thats for sure.

look at the bigger picture, we need his successor to work & learn alongside him for a few years...or get moyes in when he retires.

the grass defo isnt always greener on the other side, and its very important to remember that.

I'm not sure that teaching his successor how to get performances and use tactics like the toilet we saw today would be all that good an idea.

 


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View CharlesPaterson's Profile CharlesPaterson Flag 12 Jan 19 10.24pm Send a Private Message to CharlesPaterson Add CharlesPaterson as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Pochettino has won nothing, but everyone seems to think he is the messiah.

No comparison, Pochettino has only managed since 2009, Roy's been around since 1982..

Roy's had golden opportunities with Inter Milan, Blackburn Rovers, Liverpool and England but has failed to win anything.

 

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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 12 Jan 19 10.28pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

Originally posted by chateauferret

I'm not sure that teaching his successor how to get performances and use tactics like the toilet we saw today would be all that good an idea.

so we “should” have scored at least 4 goals today when you think about the chances we created, thats the same for every game really when you think about the chances we make. we just need the striker us, and 15 other PL teams need to score 20 goals a season.-

what i want to ask of people, is if woy wasnt in charge who would you have? and do you genuinally think they would doing any better?

all we need to do is stay up...nothing more, nothing less.

 


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View gerry theagle's Profile gerry theagle Flag newbury 12 Jan 19 10.30pm Send a Private Message to gerry theagle Add gerry theagle as a friend

Why don't you lot watch MOTD shortly and count the number of goal scoring opportunities that were missed, also the excellent saves by the Watford keeper. You cannot blame Roy for the failure of our highly paid players for our defeat today, he is not on the field holding their hands and it is grossly unfair to blame him for their shortcomings.

 

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