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View totoshkin's Profile totoshkin Flag East Grinstead 13 Jan 19 5.59pm Send a Private Message to totoshkin Add totoshkin as a friend

We have a constitutional monarchy where the Queen acts to the will of Parliament. By Wednesday we will apronably have seen the Executive branch ( the government) defeated in the Commons. Does this present an opportunity for the monarch to intercede to break the deadlock? Just wondered.

 

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View YT's Profile YT Flag Oxford 13 Jan 19 6.33pm Send a Private Message to YT Add YT as a friend

I like ‘apronably’. Maybe in such circumstances it’s a question of OVERALL responsibility.

 


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pefwin Flag Where you have to have an English ... 13 Jan 19 6.33pm

Originally posted by totoshkin

We have a constitutional monarchy where the Queen acts to the will of Parliament. By Wednesday we will apronably have seen the Executive branch ( the government) defeated in the Commons. Does this present an opportunity for the monarch to intercede to break the deadlock? Just wondered.

no is the rather obvious answer.

 


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View totoshkin's Profile totoshkin Flag East Grinstead 13 Jan 19 6.36pm Send a Private Message to totoshkin Add totoshkin as a friend

Apart from the spelling error my question boils down to is the Queen responsible to the Executive or Parliament. If the latter then what is her position if the Executive declines to follow the will of Parliament?

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Jan 19 7.15pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by totoshkin

We have a constitutional monarchy where the Queen acts to the will of Parliament. By Wednesday we will apronably have seen the Executive branch ( the government) defeated in the Commons. Does this present an opportunity for the monarch to intercede to break the deadlock? Just wondered.


personally i think the monarchy should eat cake.

Battenburg is nice.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Jan 2019 8.00pm)

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 Jan 19 7.22pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

How about no.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Jan 19 7.24pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

if the Duchy of Saxe Coburg Gotha migrated a hundred miles west it would be in Switzerland.

then the Role of the Queen would be Swiss Roll.


Cake

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jan 19 7.32pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Who did the Queen like?

Harold Wilson and missus.

He couldn't believe it when she ploughed into the washing-up on a visit.

In all the gammon years, two nice straight-forward people.

It is unlikely, as she is very elderly now, but why not cut their throats, what is there to lose ?????

Refuse to open Parliament, what a dream that would be!

 

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View rob1969's Profile rob1969 Flag Banstead Surrey 13 Jan 19 7.38pm Send a Private Message to rob1969 Add rob1969 as a friend

UGetting back to the OP’s question (PV).

I believe that under the circumstances where the government are unable to obtain the support of the majority in the commons that the Queen may invite the leader of the opposition to try and form a government. (Hopefully this will not be necessary!).
If they unable to do so then a general election is then called.

I am by no means a constitutional expert and are prepared to be corrected, or have the position clarified further.


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 13 Jan 19 7.50pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Charles I had a difference of opinion with parliament. The rest is history.


How do you make Queen cakes?
How to:
Ensure oven is fully preheated to 200°C/400°F/Gas 6.
Next, put bun paper cases into bun tins.
Put the flour, sugar, butter/margarine, eggs and water into a bowl. ...
Put heaped teaspoons of the mixture into each bun case.
Place in the oven on the top shelf and bake for about 15 minutes until golden brown...texture like sun.

Put the cakes on small sideplates. Royal Stafford is more fitting than Denby or Wedgewood.

before you slice them, roll the queencakes

Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Jan 2019 7.52pm)

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 13 Jan 19 7.56pm Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

Originally posted by PalazioVecchio

Charles I had a difference of opinion with parliament. The rest is history.


How do you make Queen cakes?
How to:
Ensure oven is fully preheated to 200°C/400°F/Gas 6.
Next, put bun paper cases into bun tins.
Put the flour, sugar, butter/margarine, eggs and water into a bowl. ...
Put heaped teaspoons of the mixture into each bun case.
Place in the oven on the top shelf and bake for about 15 minutes until golden brown...texture like sun.

Put the cakes on small sideplates. Royal Stafford is more fitting than Denby or Wedgewood.

before you slice them, roll the queencakes

Edited by PalazioVecchio (13 Jan 2019 7.52pm)

Charles had his head lopped off by a Frenchman brought in as nobody would do it.

Just shows how we are better off in Europe.


 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Jan 19 7.59pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by totoshkin

We have a constitutional monarchy where the Queen acts to the will of Parliament. By Wednesday we will apronably have seen the Executive branch ( the government) defeated in the Commons. Does this present an opportunity for the monarch to intercede to break the deadlock? Just wondered.


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Not to be picky but the Executive branch of government is actually the cabinet or group of senior government ministers. Parliament is the legislative branch.

The Queen's constitutional role is largely advise and consent. She has had the good sense to keep out of the day to day politics as she must realise if she interferes it will end badly for the monarchy. As advisor she talks with the PM each week and may suggest a course of action. Although these talks are private most former PM's have said her advice she was very helpful.

The type of advice she "might" give Mrs May will depend on what course of action Mrs May takes after she is defeated in the commons. If Mrs May says she will plough on regardless the Queen may point out the folly of this action but she will not override the elected government.

During the aftermath of the 1974 elections (hung parliament) it is believed she held discussions with Heath and Wilson and once Wilson indicated he believed he could form a government she appointed him.

She will support Mrs May until May tells her she cannot continue. I do not see the Queen making any dramatic intervention and nor should she. The monarch these days is a ceremonial role if and when Charles takes over if he starts interfering he will come a cropper.


 


One more point

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