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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 27 Feb 19 5.36am Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

So let’s imagine Batshuayi goes off now and bags a hatful of goals. We have no agreement in place to buy him so almost certainly we don’t get him for next year.

Meanwhile our other strikers haven’t been getting game time and god knows we need to get the likes of benteke and Wickham firing, assuming the latter can stay on the pitch for more than 10 seconds.

We had a huge RLC sized hole in our midfield at the start of this season and his loss definitely affected us. I fear we face the same issue at the start of next season if Batshuayi turns out to be the goal scorer we need.

Loaning players you are unlikely to be able to sign is possibly the most short term thinking in the game today.

I hope he does well for us but we must address our problems if and when we lose the guy. If we get a good offer for benteke I would be biting their hand off at this stage, and wouldn’t be sad to see Wickham go either.

Those funds must be invested wisely, as we can little afford another donkey like Sorloth for almost 10 mil.

 


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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 27 Feb 19 6.55am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

loans you can't buy come with huge drawbacks and I for one hate them. I guess the hoped-for, short-term upside -- points on the board -- is just too tempting.

 

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Yellow Card - User has been warned of conduct on the messageboards View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 27 Feb 19 7.04am Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Needs must and all that. Hopefully the clear out of the dead wood in January is an indication of something approaching a strategy and we'll be able to buy in the summer.

Keep loaning players doesn't solve the long term problem we have with both squad depth and replacing key players when they move on. It's a plaster on a crack in a dam, which cynically I think suits Parish.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 27 Feb 19 7.47am Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

On the flip side, you get players in you think will help you on loan, but they don’t always work out. The benefit is your not left with them on a 3 or 4 year contract and you don’t want them ie Sanogo, Bamford, Remy, Rakip etc.
Wish we had loaned Mutch instead of buying him.

 

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View Norway's Profile Norway Flag Sandnes,Norway 27 Feb 19 7.51am Send a Private Message to Norway Add Norway as a friend

One who is loaned out keeps scoring - did it in an important match last week - Sørloth! He will be ready for next season!

 


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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Feb 19 7.57am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Norway

One who is loaned out keeps scoring - did it in an important match last week - Sørloth! He will be ready for next season!

Ah, the eternal optimist!
Hazard off to RM, Wilf to Chelski in player plus cash deal. A possibility sadly.

 

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View Nobbybm's Profile Nobbybm Online Flag Dartford 27 Feb 19 8.43am Send a Private Message to Nobbybm Add Nobbybm as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Ah, the eternal optimist!
Hazard off to RM, Wilf to Chelski in player plus cash deal. A possibility sadly.

Apart from Chelski's transfer ban - they can't sign anyone which is probably why they wouldn't sell Batshuayi (or anyone else decent) at the end of the season.

 


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View alffy's Profile alffy Flag 27 Feb 19 8.44am Send a Private Message to alffy Add alffy as a friend

Chelsea can't buy anyone so they won't be buying Wilf and probably won't sell many

 

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View leejaneagles's Profile leejaneagles Flag 27 Feb 19 8.47am Send a Private Message to leejaneagles Add leejaneagles as a friend

Batshuayi was the signalling of the end of the Benteke project.

Hodgson has probably known for 2 seasons that he is not a good Striker anymore and Parish, whilst he may have known deep down, probably wanted to give the big investment as long as possible and first half of this season in the desperate hope he comes good.

Parish doing this for Roy and the club, even short term is saying that we now have no fit-for-purpose Strikers.

I don't believe Batshuayi leaves, along with Ayew and we stick with Benteke, Wickham and Sorloth next season.

The club knows we need a Striker, in the short term we just need to stay in the Prem hence the scrambling for the last minute loan deal. Surely in the Summer, all we will be targeting is the perm deal Striker, be it Batshuayi or someone else.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 27 Feb 19 9.11am Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by Nobbybm

Apart from Chelski's transfer ban - they can't sign anyone which is probably why they wouldn't sell Batshuayi (or anyone else decent) at the end of the season.

I completely forgot about that! Cheers

 

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Originally posted by Nobbybm

Apart from Chelski's transfer ban - they can't sign anyone which is probably why they wouldn't sell Batshuayi (or anyone else decent) at the end of the season.

They'll appeal that and use the opportunity to offload players and rinse 200m on new signings.

Knowing they're on a deadline and have to get deals done would work in a buyer's favour, could get RLC or Bats for fair value.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 27 Feb 19 9.42am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by leejaneagles

Batshuayi was the signalling of the end of the Benteke project.

Hodgson has probably known for 2 seasons that he is not a good Striker anymore and Parish, whilst he may have known deep down, probably wanted to give the big investment as long as possible and first half of this season in the desperate hope he comes good.

Parish doing this for Roy and the club, even short term is saying that we now have no fit-for-purpose Strikers.

I don't believe Batshuayi leaves, along with Ayew and we stick with Benteke, Wickham and Sorloth next season.

The club knows we need a Striker, in the short term we just need to stay in the Prem hence the scrambling for the last minute loan deal. Surely in the Summer, all we will be targeting is the perm deal Striker, be it Batshuayi or someone else.

You do realise Batshuayi is supposed to be on £180k per week and Benteke will be on £130k per week until June 2020 and Wickham on £80k per week until June 2020?

We won’t be able to get rid of Benteke or Wickham and even if we did, we’re potentially creating a repeat of similar problems. Breaking the wage structure, risking having no strikers if Batshuayi gets injured, hamstringing ourselves in future windows so we can’t sign anyone, only having a bare 11 plus a few more.

The reason we’re in these situations is because the scouting has been poor. We’re supposed to be sorting this out. Getting back into another mess is potential suicide. I therefore expect us to do it, forget about the possible consequences, enjoy it for a while and then watch everyone criticise the club for doing it.

I doubt we’ll have anyone else in mind like with Benteke and Sakho and we’ll only realise we don’t when Chelsea make their demands. But all this depends on Batsman wanting to play for a bottom third Prem team. Maybe he will, rather than be a bench warmer.

 


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