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If this was turned on its head and Boris Johnson had made a comment about Lenny Henry doing similar, I'd have expected cries of 'racism' from all quarters.

I'm pleased Dooley is standing up for the cause rather than the purile comments

 


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Originally posted by Lyons550

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If this was turned on its head and Boris Johnson had made a comment about Lenny Henry doing similar, I'd have expected cries of 'racism' from all quarters.

I'm pleased Dooley is standing up for the cause rather than the purile comments

Yep, by being 'white' in photos you are 'perpetuating an old idea from the colonial era'.

Yes David, in your head.

The male Diane Abbott......but as we have seen, this kind of thing advances your career in the Labour party.

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 28 Feb 19 12.51pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

What does white have anything to do with it?
It sounds a racist statement to me and
He should be done for hate speech

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 28 Feb 19 1.01pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

I don’t like the bloke and think he is anti white or at least internally but...
He has a point.
Why should white liberals be at the front of ethnic groups and their issues.
Basically subconsciously taking control when the colour of the cause should be the head of it.
Malcom x said the same thing and was accused of being racist way back then.
Being in control is the fundamental description of slavery and by snatching this away is a mild form of the same thing.
The west have tried to help in Africa and because the upper echelons of their governments know this they don’t help or lift a finger and keep taking.
We should really back off and let these populations sort out their own problems. Whether they can at the moment is questionable but in time it will get sorted.
It might take years and many lives but it is clear whatever we are doing is perpetuating and sanctioning the bad governance.

 

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Trying to politicise a charity is stupid - I think he's raised this view before.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 28 Feb 19 1.13pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Perhaps black people should be doing more for charity.

Perhaps white people should stop donating to charities in Africa.

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 28 Feb 19 1.17pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Isn't she british? I'm failing to see what colour has to do with this.

It's nothing but a racist comment.

 

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Originally posted by cryrst

I don’t like the bloke and think he is anti white or at least internally but...
He has a point.
Why should white liberals be at the front of ethnic groups and their issues.
Basically subconsciously taking control when the colour of the cause should be the head of it.
Malcom x said the same thing and was accused of being racist way back then.
Being in control is the fundamental description of slavery and by snatching this away is a mild form of the same thing.
The west have tried to help in Africa and because the upper echelons of their governments know this they don’t help or lift a finger and keep taking.
We should really back off and let these populations sort out their own problems. Whether they can at the moment is questionable but in time it will get sorted.
It might take years and many lives but it is clear whatever we are doing is perpetuating and sanctioning the bad governance.

I agree up to a point.

I think that well meaning people see children in other countries being born to die and they want to help. I'm fully behind that, as it's pure humanitarianism and we are all humans at the end of the day.

However, I also fully accept your point that the state of Africa is a reflection of its own failure compared to the west.....it is the summation of its population. The GDP of every country broadly reflects its IQ.

You are correct that if you try to help.....you will be accused of superiority, which is a weird meaningless charge .....But we get this because essentially we have built an industry in this country that's paid to criticise white people......So you are required to feel guilty about Africa because as a white person you are 'born guilty'.....it's self hating BS of course but that's what we have now.

So should we drop Africa like a hot potato. No, not in my opinion. A starving child is a starving child and I don't give a feck what David Lammy thinks.

Malcolm X was partially right about white liberals....I say partially because it's also true that a lot of them are well meaning if a bit deluded.

He was a separatist like Ali....which is kind of funny because he's celebrated by left wing white types that he personally detested. Yet these same whites think white separatists should burn in hell.

The 'born guilty' brigade.

We should all do what we think is right and feck what anybody else thinks.


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Has anyone been tried for the murder of almost all 'white' farmers in Zimbabwe ?


Just how low does this "Race card" B-5hlt go ?

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 28 Feb 19 1.25pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

I agree with David Lammy and we should respect his wishes that the "world doesn't need any more white saviours" by withdrawing the £1billion of aid per annum that we give Africa.

We should also strip Bob Geldof of his KBE

 

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Pussay Patrol Flag 28 Feb 19 1.33pm

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

I agree with David Lammy and we should respect his wishes that the "world doesn't need any more white saviours" by withdrawing the £1billion of aid per annum that we give Africa.

We should also strip Bob Geldof of his KBE

We don't give aid, we share a small bit of the world's wealth and greedily keep most to ourselves

You make it sound like we doing a favour when it's our duty

 


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Originally posted by Stirlingsays

I agree up to a point.

I think that well meaning people see children in other countries being born to die and they want to help. I'm fully behind that, as it's pure humanitarianism and we are all humans at the end of the day.

However, I also fully accept your point that the state of Africa is a reflection of its own failure compared to the west.....it is the summation of its population. The GDP of every country broadly reflects its IQ.

You are correct that if you try to help.....you will be accused of superiority, which is a weird meaningless charge .....But we get this because essentially we have built an industry in this country that's paid to criticise white people......So you are required to feel guilty about Africa because as a white person you are 'born guilty'.....it's self hating BS of course but that's what we have now.

So should we drop Africa like a hot potato. No, not in my opinion. A starving child is a starving child and I don't give a feck what David Lammy thinks.

Malcolm X was partially right about white liberals....I say partially because it's also true that a lot of them are well meaning if a bit deluded.

He was a separatist like Ali....which is kind of funny because he's celebrated by left wing white types that he personally detested. Yet these same whites think white separatists should burn in hell.

The 'born guilty' brigade.

We should all do what we think is right and feck what anybody else thinks.


Edited by Stirlingsays (28 Feb 2019 1.26pm)

The way kids are being knocked out isn’t our fault.
Ignorance about pregnancy and lack of effort to avoid it isn’t an excuse.
There was a big thing about contraception and they are educated enough to know how babies are made.
Especially as you know there is every chance your kid is going to die a slow and sad death.
It’s the same here with having kids but the reason here is a lot about the benefits and housing.
I don’t agree but sort of get it.
Why doesn’t the left and all the bleeding heart brigade pilot some of these ideas instead of blaming all but the protagonists of their own problems.


 

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