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View spartakev2's Profile spartakev2 Flag Anerley 13 Apr 19 9.40pm Send a Private Message to spartakev2 Add spartakev2 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


Let's get our facts straight.

I don;t have time to explain this all the time when a simple wikipedia search clarifies it.

Screw second division goals. Mounie also had great numbers in the second division, that's not what we're talking about. There's a huge difference between the Championship and the Premier League.

There is also a difference between the Ligue 1 of France and the Premier League, but not that much and considering that goals are scored there much harder, a goal in Ligue 1 values as much as a goal in the PL.

Mounie had 14 goals in the 2016-17 season, 7 goals for Huddersfield last season and just 2 goals the current season. That's 23 goals in 86 matches, one every 3.66 matches.

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Alex Mitrovic has had in the same time period 16 goals in 42 matches in the Championship. But let's just focus on what he did at top level. 11 goals in 38 matches in the Premier League. That's one goals every 3.5 matches, but coroborated with the ones in the Championship, I'd say his goalscoring is below that of Steve Mounie.

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When you go deeper into analysis, you can conclude that Steve Mounie has also contributed with 8 assists in this time period too, getting 23 goals and 8 assists in just 6200 minutes.

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Aleksandr Mitrovic has just 2 assists at top level in the Premier League, for a total of 11 goals and 2 assists in 3000 minutes.

Yes, he also has 7 assists in the Championship for a total of 16 goals and 7 assists there in 2600 minutes, but it's a much lower level. Mounie had 11 goals and 5 assists in 2600 minutes in the 2015-16 season of Ligue 2 as well.

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Now, while they're both good, strong pivots, who can set up other players, the other things Mounie does, like running, pressing and defending are much, much better than the overall game of Mitrovic.

Therefore my cocnclusion that Steve Mounie is a much better bargain for the price he would cost. He's cheaper and better than Mitrovic, who is pretty overrated because he has been in English football longer and has stepped up through other issues rather than football.


I do respect Mitrovic for what he has done for the Serbia national team, but there's no way to compare the 2 there, with Steve Mounie playing for lowly Benin.

And this season:

Mounie- 2 goals and 3 assists in 1700 minutes

Mitrovic- 10 goals and 2 assists in 2950 minutes

Yeah, it is better for Mitrovic, but if you look at the playing time it's not THAT MUCH beter. 1 goal or assist in more than 200 minutes is not good for a center forward.

Yeah, it's even worse for Mounie, he has had a lousy season too, but the team was really poor, had given up the fight half way through and he has previous seasons to support him, he could get back to that form.
He had 7 goals and 2 assists in 1800 minutes last year, for the same lowly Huddersfield, while Mitrovic was playing for 1st place in the Championship. And 14 goals and 3 assists the year before that for mid-table Montpellier in Ligue 1 in 2800 minutes.

Plus, he's much more fit and works for the team. Mitrovic is already chubby. If you take Mounie you take him for the future and even possible re-sale value.

Mitrovic on the other hand won;t make it to 30 years in a high competitive league at the way he looks.

Just to be clear, I;m not saying Steve Mounie is the best option for Palace at the moment (as he's going through a decrease in performances), but I'm just making the comparison with Mitrovic.

Yes, I stand by what I said, he would be a much better investment than Mitrovic.

Edited by mattteo (09 Apr 2019 1.09pm)

Just wondering why he's played so little this season for a poor team like Huddersfield. Not like they have too many alternatives.

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 14 Apr 19 9.37am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by coulsdoneagle

unbelievable performance from Mitrovic today, 2 assists and he bullied Everton’s backline. Hit the crossbar and threatened all game. Man of the match by a distance.

Mounie didn’t even start for Huddersfield today...

You can twist statistics or say b*llocks like Mitrovic is Overweight and won’t lst till 30, but it doesn’t take a genius to work our why one has had a significantly better season than the other.

Some players were just born to be strikers, they use their strength to create space in the box. You don’t have to be lightning quick, Micky Quinn, Glenn Murray spring to mind. Mitrovic is s similar sort of player, will always cause problems and will always score goals. I would have him in the Palace team in a heartbeat. Benteke should have a video of that performance and be forced to watch it until it’s ingrained!

 

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View ChrisGC's Profile ChrisGC Flag Wantage 21 Apr 19 7.29am Send a Private Message to ChrisGC Add ChrisGC as a friend

Mitrovic is a fat b****** who doesn't score many goals.

Cannot understand why he's being touted.

 

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View Maine Eagle's Profile Maine Eagle Flag USA 24 Apr 19 9.46pm Send a Private Message to Maine Eagle Add Maine Eagle as a friend

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Aaron Mooy - suggestion' by Midlands Eagle

Get him in - MacArthur replacement.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 28 Apr 19 8.18am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Aaron Mooy should be on our shortlist without a doubt.

 

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Originally posted by Maine Eagle

This post has been merged from a topic called 'Aaron Mooy - suggestion' by Midlands Eagle

Get him in - MacArthur replacement.

just out of interest...why do we need to replace jimmy mac?

 


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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

just out of interest...why do we need to replace jimmy mac?

I like Jimmy Mac and think for what we paid for him he has been incredible for the club. I do, however, think that if we are truly going to progress as a team he is one of the obvious choices to be replaced in midfield. He’s been a great servant to the club and I would keep him as a squad player, but if we have the chance to bring in someone with a bit more composure, can keep possession and move us forward then we have to take it.

The most enjoyable season for me was when we had Luka, cabaye and RLC in midfield as we had players that were comfortable on the ball, could hold it up and pick a pass. We’ve massively lacked that this year. When you’re struggling in a game, if you have someone who can just get the ball and keep it for a bit as opposed to just panicking and lumping it up front it doesn’t half change things.

Mooy would suit our system well I think. He’s a bit more box to box, good at set pieces and can pick a pass. He has that little bit of bite that cabaye had too. I also think Matt O’Reilly at Fulham, who didn’t feature this year after they bought a load of midfielders, is a great prospect who we should be looking at in terms of players from relegated teams.

 

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Originally posted by braunstoneagle

just out of interest...why do we need to replace jimmy mac?

Lost what pace he had and has been pretty p&ss poor this season.

 


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