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For those real conservatives out there who have missed it here's a link to a recent discussion between Douglas Murray and Sir Roger Scruton on the future of Conservatism.

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 13 May 19 7.35pm Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

For those real conservatives out there who have missed it here's a link to a recent discussion between Douglas Murray and Sir Roger Scruton on the future of Conservatism.

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A good discussion. Thanks.

 

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Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

A good discussion. Thanks.

You are most welcome Hrolf, tips hat.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 14 May 19 8.17pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

A bit early to be worrying about Christmas presents. Will they be the same price as the Friends series? And what actions will they mimic?

 


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Douglas Murray has a new book out that I'll obviously be getting and so here we have an interview with Douglas and Julia Hartley-Brewer's rather impressive legs.....and that's a worthwhile 55 minutes for me at least.

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Sep 19 2.54pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

I heard Douglas Murray on Radio 4 this morning pimping his new book.

He came over as a total prat, full of poorly worked out assumptions which led to illogical conclusions.

He might be the darling of the hard right but he didn't convince me and, despite the howls of anticipated protest, I am a "real conservative". More I would argue than some who are really Brexit Party sheep hiding in Conservative fleeces.

I am a "one nation" conservative. I am just not the kind of Tory now controlling the party and who have drummed out 21 decent MPs for daring to disagree with them.

 

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View W12's Profile W12 Flag 17 Sep 19 3.14pm Send a Private Message to W12 Add W12 as a friend

Originally posted by Wisbech Eagle

I heard Douglas Murray on Radio 4 this morning pimping his new book.

He came over as a total prat, full of poorly worked out assumptions which led to illogical conclusions.

He might be the darling of the hard right but he didn't convince me and, despite the howls of anticipated protest, I am a "real conservative". More I would argue than some who are really Brexit Party sheep hiding in Conservative fleeces.

I am a "one nation" conservative. I am just not the kind of Tory now controlling the party and who have drummed out 21 decent MPs for daring to disagree with them.

"Hard right" what does this mean? Because he criticizes those that cannot be criticized?

As he's a gay man I would say his deeply and articulately expressed concerns about Islam are entirely logical and based on and at least partly motivated by self preservation.

It's also funny that Tommy Robinson expressed exactly the same concerns but his status as a straight, working class man offers him less protection.

 

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Real conservatives have little concern for what a weasel may think of a lion.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 17 Sep 19 5.17pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

does the current Conservative party work on behalf of :

a) the British people
b) the British people plus anybody else with a vote
c) investors, party benefactors, bankers,
d) other


before you answer the question you should think about :
- the cover-up of grooming gangs
- open borders
- the level of benefits for the longterm unemployed
- the lack of regulation of the banking sector pre 2007.
- buying a house for a million quid and finding yourself living cheek by jowl with those on welfare.
- the existence of ghettos where a huge proportion of the locals are in receipt of benefits longterm.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (17 Sep 2019 5.37pm)

 


from the Etihad, Emirates, Molyneux, London Stadium & Anfield to Old Trafford.....Raptors on the Road

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 17 Sep 19 5.51pm Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Real conservatives have little concern for what a weasel may think of a lion.

Absolute textbook SS nonsense.

 


Tw@tter:

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Originally posted by DanH

Absolute textbook SS nonsense.

Fanboy.

Haven't you got an after work 'male feminist' seminar to attend or something?

 

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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 17 Sep 19 7.01pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by W12

"Hard right" what does this mean? Because he criticizes those that cannot be criticized?

As he's a gay man I would say his deeply and articulately expressed concerns about Islam are entirely logical and based on and at least partly motivated by self preservation.

It's also funny that Tommy Robinson expressed exactly the same concerns but his status as a straight, working class man offers him less protection.

I have no opinion on the man's politics. I assume from what he said, and that he writes for the Telegraph, that he is not a socialist but just where on the right leaning spectrum he could be placed is unknown to me. I don't follow him and from what I heard won't be starting anytime soon.

My remark was about those who seems to comprise his fan base and not the man himself.

I haven't heard him on Muslims, only on what he was banging on about in the interview. Which was some imaginary "culture wars". I now know where one our most prolific contributors gets some of his weird ideas.

People will write almost any old nonsense just to sell books and make some money. Just as they will find a convenient campaign to rouse the rabble on. It's a free world and if people are daft enough to read/listen to them that's their responsibility. Just don't count me in.

 

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