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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 27 May 19 9.02pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

SJ hit the nail on the head a few days ago. Politicians need to start earning their money. For too many years they've been employing family staff, filing generous expenses claims, and only visiting 'the house' when they need some attendance cash.

We have an un-holy Administration (not Government), where the Tories are dictated to by the DUP, and the EU.
We have no viable opposition party to oust the ruling parties.
And the fact Farage can make a mockery of the UK political system says more about the passive electorate, than it does about him.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 27 May 19 9.13pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

SJ hit the nail on the head a few days ago. Politicians need to start earning their money. For too many years they've been employing family staff,

Isn't that what SJ did when he was chairman of Palace?

 

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View Jamesey's Profile Jamesey Flag Wandsworth 27 May 19 9.34pm Send a Private Message to Jamesey Add Jamesey as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

Isn't that what SJ did when he was chairman of Palace?

Yes. He made his brother Dominic his deputy. And I have been told that the No 2 was widely disliked by all the staff who worked under him. But that is only hearsay although I can well believe it looking at all the other aspects of SJ's regime, culminating in administration in 2010.


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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 27 May 19 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

SJ hit the nail on the head a few days ago. Politicians need to start earning their money. For too many years they've been employing family staff, filing generous expenses claims, and only visiting 'the house' when they need some attendance cash.

We have an un-holy Administration (not Government), where the Tories are dictated to by the DUP, and the EU.
We have no viable opposition party to oust the ruling parties.
And the fact Farage can make a mockery of the UK political system says more about the passive electorate, than it does about him.

So busy making a mockery of the UK he didnít have time to turn up for his proper job. And when he did he misspent his employers funds and had to pay them back over 10 months. Such a great example to politics.

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View Jimenez's Profile Jimenez Flag SELHURSTPARKCHESTER,DA BRONX 27 May 19 11.12pm Send a Private Message to Jimenez Add Jimenez as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

So busy making a mockery of the UK he didnít have time to turn up for his proper job. And when he did he misspent his employers funds and had to pay them back over 10 months. Such a great example to politics.

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LOL. Another one of the sore losers brigade..

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 28 May 19 8.29am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

SJ hit the nail on the head a few days ago. Politicians need to start earning their money. For too many years they've been employing family staff, filing generous expenses claims, and only visiting 'the house' when they need some attendance cash.

We have an un-holy Administration (not Government), where the Tories are dictated to by the DUP, and the EU.
We have no viable opposition party to oust the ruling parties.
And the fact Farage can make a mockery of the UK political system says more about the passive electorate, than it does about him.

There is no prospect of any meaningful reform of politics. Give it a while and the Brexit party will be just as bad as the rest #My_turn_at_the_trough.

Some people favour proportionately representation and those same people complain about the Tory DUP alliance well that is what you get with PR. Imagine what politics you would get with the following governments:

Labour / Lib Dems / SNP / Greens

Tories / DUP / Brexit

Sure all voters would be represented and nothing meaningful would be done just look at Italy.

For me the system is not perfect but is workable. The real problem is the lack of first class minds and real life experience. Too many professional politicians whose career path is:

Private education / University / Party job / MP / Cabinet.

 


One more point

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag Wisbech, England 28 May 19 3.46pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Politicians are humans and as such as subject to all the same failings and vices....don't we know it.

The two best methods to improve standards in any human endeavour is competition and regulation.....with competition being head and shoulders the better of the two.

Unfortunately competition in the political field starts strong but lessens considerably the higher they get.

By the time they get to parliament the opportunities for an easy life with gravy is all too apparent.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 28 May 19 4.10pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

There is no prospect of any meaningful reform of politics. Give it a while and the Brexit party will be just as bad as the rest #My_turn_at_the_trough.

Some people favour proportionately representation and those same people complain about the Tory DUP alliance well that is what you get with PR. Imagine what politics you would get with the following governments:

Labour / Lib Dems / SNP / Greens

Tories / DUP / Brexit

Sure all voters would be represented and nothing meaningful would be done just look at Italy.

For me the system is not perfect but is workable. The real problem is the lack of first class minds and real life experience. Too many professional politicians whose career path is:

Private education / University / Party job / MP / Cabinet.

Agreed. There's been a lot of criticism of the first past the post system we have. However, I can't see how individual MP's could be held directly accountable without it.

I'm not a fan of the EU proportional representation system where there is a lack of control over what who a seat gets given too. For example Farage first got elected as an MEP with only 9.7% of the vote.

If we go for any change each constituency should use AV to stop the vote of smaller parties getting split.

Also, I simply don't think they get paid enough to attract talented candidates willing to give up their jobs to become responsible for 100,000 people with the risk of getting sacked at the next election. That's why you either end up with totally unemployable people like Corbyn* and Abbott or rich kids playing politics like Cameron and Boris.

(Corbyn was brought up in a manor house so also a rich kid)

 

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View johnno42000's Profile johnno42000 Flag 28 May 19 5.03pm Send a Private Message to johnno42000 Add johnno42000 as a friend

Bring back the Commonwealth under a Lord Protector.

 


'Lies to the masses as are like fly's to mollasses...they want more and more and more'

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View Henry of Peckham's Profile Henry of Peckham Flag Eton Mess 28 May 19 6.01pm Send a Private Message to Henry of Peckham Add Henry of Peckham as a friend

A new party with no policies does significantly better in the polls than two established parties with no idea ... that says it all.

 


Denial is not just a river in Egypt

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View punksnotdead's Profile punksnotdead Flag croydon 28 May 19 7.06pm Send a Private Message to punksnotdead Add punksnotdead as a friend

Maybe we should only allow people to become politicians after they have done some proper jobs to show they can work with others towards targets and goals like the rest of us, too many of them get jobs from their parents and parents friends for a year or two before being parachuted into safe seats for a life of riley and privilege at our expense.
How can anyone know what the majority of the voters go through every day if they haven't experienced it themselves.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 28 May 19 7.07pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

the Tories and Labour have been shyte for decades.

lets make way for the monster raving looney party.

 


34,300 reasons to love Selhurst in 2021

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