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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Sittingbourne 10 Jul 19 10.01am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Honestly, how???

Can anyone explain to me how other teams are able to spend tens of millions on players and even despite the AWB sale we are not even close to making any sort of marquee signing or someone to a least boost the team, or replace the player we have just sold for a princely sum?

This isn't a sarcastic post, it's a genuine question. Even Southampton have spent about £40million on strikers already.

Surely it isn't rocket science in that you identify gaps in your team, plan ahead for recruitment and then begin negotiating once the window opens. I don't accept the fact we have no money and we got rid of a load of dead wood last season

Genuinely boggles the mind!!! Or am I supposed to wait til the last day of the transfer window when we spend £100 million on a top class striker, right back, winger and central defender?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 19 10.03am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Honestly, how???

Can anyone explain to me how other teams are able to spend tens of millions on players and even despite the AWB sale we are not even close to making any sort of marquee signing or someone to a least boost the team, or replace the player we have just sold for a princely sum?

This isn't a sarcastic post, it's a genuine question. Even Southampton have spent about £40million on strikers already.

Surely it isn't rocket science in that you identify gaps in your team, plan ahead for recruitment and then begin negotiating once the window opens. I don't accept the fact we have no money and we got rid of a load of dead wood last season

Genuinely boggles the mind!!! Or am I supposed to wait til the last day of the transfer window when we spend £100 million on a top class striker, right back, winger and central defender?

Crikey that would be a great signing if he could play all those positions.

 


One more point

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 10 Jul 19 10.13am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

despite the AWB sale we are not even close to making any sort of marquee signing or someone to a least boost the team, or replace the player we have just sold for a princely sum?

How do you know?

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Sittingbourne 10 Jul 19 10.17am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

How do you know?

Is that supposed to be an attempt at provocation, an exercise in thought policing or would you care to enlighten me?

 

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Tipp_Eagle Flag Tipperary 10 Jul 19 10.34am

Financial fair play blah blah ZZZZZ snore whistle , sane ol excuses for a tight arse board . zzzzzzz

 


oh yeah ,fcuk off brighton.

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View RyWa's Profile RyWa Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 19 10.46am Send a Private Message to RyWa Add RyWa as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

Honestly, how???

Can anyone explain to me how other teams are able to spend tens of millions on players and even despite the AWB sale we are not even close to making any sort of marquee signing or someone to a least boost the team, or replace the player we have just sold for a princely sum?

This isn't a sarcastic post, it's a genuine question. Even Southampton have spent about £40million on strikers already.

Surely it isn't rocket science in that you identify gaps in your team, plan ahead for recruitment and then begin negotiating once the window opens. I don't accept the fact we have no money and we got rid of a load of dead wood last season

Genuinely boggles the mind!!! Or am I supposed to wait til the last day of the transfer window when we spend £100 million on a top class striker, right back, winger and central defender?


As much as it frustrates us as fans, Parish takes a much more cautious approach to transfers and money spending in general than Simon Jordan for instance, and I think part of that comes down to our stints in administration that Parish actually saved us from.
The other part you have to look at is financial constraints.. our accounts for last year show we operated at a loss of £30,000,000.
Our main issue is our wage bill compared to our profit made which is something stupid like an 85:15 ratio.
FFP is mainly based around club revenue and where ours is very low, our "allowance" is alot less than other clubs.

Roy wont be given the full £50mil because of the £30m loss i mentioned further up, so dont be suprised if theres not loads of money spent again this window,

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Jul 19 10.48am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

I stopped reading at ‘marquee signing.’

There is a right back coming in. Further than that I assume we’re trying to make the limited money stretch further.

And Southampton are in a different stage of the spend-conserve cycle that all Prem clubs in the bottom half experience. West Ham have gone through it as well. Happens everywhere but the real underlying reasons are the poor scouting and buying players for £25-30 mil and paying several players in the squad £100-130k per week. Our wage bill is astronomical.

 


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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Jul 19 10.49am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Tipp_Eagle

Financial fair play blah blah ZZZZZ snore whistle , sane ol excuses for a tight arse board . zzzzzzz

We’ve been reporting losses. Do you add to your credit card debt over and over?

 


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View RyWa's Profile RyWa Flag Beckenham 10 Jul 19 10.53am Send a Private Message to RyWa Add RyWa as a friend

Originally posted by Tipp_Eagle

Financial fair play blah blah ZZZZZ snore whistle , sane ol excuses for a tight arse board . zzzzzzz

Stupidest comment ive seen in a while tbh, do you want to end up in administration again?

Edited by RyWa (10 Jul 2019 11.14am)

 

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View alffy's Profile alffy Flag 10 Jul 19 11.45am Send a Private Message to alffy Add alffy as a friend

I think it's definitely an issue with wages. We gave out some crazy contracts to players like Sakho, Zaha, Meyer, Benteke, and even back to Cabaye. It's these high wages that are not helping our FFP. It is baffling though as many articles state we are fairly high in the rich list, not including our US owners money. I think Parish is his worst enemy though as he faffs about too long over transfers and we inevitably lose out to rival teams. The crap will hit the fan if we pass up on potential signings and then sell Wilf at the end of the window.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Sittingbourne 10 Jul 19 12.04pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

I understand that there are FFP rules, that we are operating at a loss and that players are on high wages, or more I acknowledge these things as oppose to understand them however is this not something all clubs have to contend with?

It just seems to me that we are always fishing around the bargain bucket for scraps whereas other sides, such as your southamptons, watfords, west hams, leicester etc. always seem to have money to spend on what I would deem 'marquee signings'. In fact I would consider any striker £20mil above as a marquee signing and we've been crying out for that for years. Batshuayi almost seems like a cruel tease now.

Luka was a snap, Max was on a free and apart from Benteke and Sakho I cannot remember getting excited about any of our signings going back a while. I'm not sure I buy in to the 'spend and conserve' theory, could be wrong but at the risk of keyboard warriors that sounds made up to me.

To be clear, it's not really a moan as I expect us to do the bare minimum in the hope of staying up, which we have done. 7 years may seem like a long time but it really isn't and I do not expect the club to turn round and say we are now going to challenge for Europe, I suppose it is just that the AWB money, plus lack of any real activity since BFS has me wondering.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 10 Jul 19 12.22pm Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I understand that there are FFP rules, that we are operating at a loss and that players are on high wages, or more I acknowledge these things as oppose to understand them however is this not something all clubs have to contend with?

It just seems to me that we are always fishing around the bargain bucket for scraps whereas other sides, such as your southamptons, watfords, west hams, leicester etc. always seem to have money to spend on what I would deem 'marquee signings'. In fact I would consider any striker £20mil above as a marquee signing and we've been crying out for that for years. Batshuayi almost seems like a cruel tease now.

Luka was a snap, Max was on a free and apart from Benteke and Sakho I cannot remember getting excited about any of our signings going back a while. I'm not sure I buy in to the 'spend and conserve' theory, could be wrong but at the risk of keyboard warriors that sounds made up to me.

To be clear, it's not really a moan as I expect us to do the bare minimum in the hope of staying up, which we have done. 7 years may seem like a long time but it really isn't and I do not expect the club to turn round and say we are now going to challenge for Europe, I suppose it is just that the AWB money, plus lack of any real activity since BFS has me wondering.

We do not have the same money and revenue as ‘your southamptons, west hams, leicester.’ That is the point of building a new bigger earning main stand, which is isn’t progressing fast enough, or at all.

The spend and conserve cycle is not made up. All of those clubs you mentioned have gone through it, you just don’t remember because you don’t support them. I don’t know an awful lot about Watford but I suspect they save some on player costs with their Italian arrangement. And our wage/revenue ratio is worse than all of those you mention. Not only is that a FFP consideration but a real life one.

I know you’re frustrated but this has been brewing because of our player strategy and policy, or lack of. We need to get through it and come out the other side and go again with more skill than just lashing out to save our skin, which is what Parish has been doing since we were promoted. This is what must be remembered when people say it’s our longest stint in the Prem. Parish has achieved that with this spending that’s hamstringing us now.

I suppose remembering it myself will help me deal with the boring football because I doubt many quality managers would be over the moon about this current conservative part of this cycle we ideally need to smooth out to consistent spending.

Edited by Rudi Hedman (10 Jul 2019 12.25pm)

 


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