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View new_in_Wait's Profile new_in_Wait Flag Lewisham 06 Aug 19 4.12pm Send a Private Message to new_in_Wait Add new_in_Wait as a friend

he would be too exciting and young, we don't do that around here. we'll probably bring in Danny Simpson on a free, three-year contract @70k/week. Another Premier League winner!

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 06 Aug 19 6.19pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

Rubbish...Reece James is light years ahead. Bogle is a good alternative...but a better prospect? Not at the minute he's not


Bogle has played as a starter in the Championship, with strong, well appreciated performances and good figures for a right back: 2 goals and 10 assists in 4400 minutes (James doesn't even have this in youth level).

Reece James has just been loaned to a Championship club for last season and he got to play decently, but there's no guarantee he'll make it there in the long term. I've seen lot of players who came out of youth development and didn't cut it in League One or the Championship.

Reece is a promising player, I'd take him if he were free for the U21 squad. But Chelsea apparently value him at 30 million. 20 million, really?? If he doesn't impress in the Championship, they'll let him go on a free in 2 years.

On the other hand, Bogle is already a certainty and, at the very least, will have 10 years of football at second tier level or higher (most probably). And what would Derby charge for Bogle? 5 million max.

Edited by mattteo (06 Aug 2019 6.20pm)

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Aug 19 6.30pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo


Bogle has played as a starter in the Championship, with strong, well appreciated performances and good figures for a right back: 2 goals and 10 assists in 4400 minutes (James doesn't even have this in youth level).

Reece James has just been loaned to a Championship club for last season and he got to play decently, but there's no guarantee he'll make it there in the long term. I've seen lot of players who came out of youth development and didn't cut it in League One or the Championship.

Reece is a promising player, I'd take him if he were free for the U21 squad. But Chelsea apparently value him at 30 million. 20 million, really?? If he doesn't impress in the Championship, they'll let him go on a free in 2 years.

On the other hand, Bogle is already a certainty and, at the very least, will have 10 years of football at second tier level or higher (most probably). And what would Derby charge for Bogle? 5 million max.

Edited by mattteo (06 Aug 2019 6.20pm)

James is a miles better prospect - absolutely tore up the championship last season at first attempt; won every club award at Wigan and their fans describe him as one of the best players to ever play for the club. Hes not being loaned out this year because hes second choice right back now and Zappacosta will move on.

Having said that, Bogle had a great season, and Im fairly sure hes a south-Londoner - would be a good acquisition.

Will cost a hell of a lot more than 5m though.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 06 Aug 19 6.42pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Reece James will only be second choice IF Zappacosta (who is a very good player) leaves. We'll see how that goes, I don't think he'll leave.

Reece James is currently recovering from an ankle surgery and is not expected to be available before the end of the month of August.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Aug 19 6.45pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Reece James will only be second choice IF Zappacosta (who is a very good player) leaves. We'll see how that goes, I don't think he'll leave.

Reece James is currently recovering from an ankle surgery and is not expected to be available before the end of the month of August.

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 06 Aug 19 7.08pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Maybe, we'll see. Conclusion for me: he's a good player. But 20 million for him?!?

Who pays that kind of money for a right back??

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 06 Aug 19 7.15pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Maybe, we'll see. Conclusion for me: he's a good player. But 20 million for him?!?

Who pays that kind of money for a right back??

Thats the market now unfortunately - weve just benefited from selling AWB for 50m.

James is quality though; will have a serious career IMO.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 06 Aug 19 7.40pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Thats the market now unfortunately - weve just benefited from selling AWB for 50m.

James is quality though; will have a serious career IMO.

The market also had Almamy Toure going from Monaco to Eintracht Frankfurt for 0.7 million, Mama Balde to Dijon of France for free (very similar to AWB), Josh Brenet from PSV to Hoffenheim for 3 million. Eli Dasa is out of contract with the Israeli champions and a very good right back.

 

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View silvertop's Profile silvertop Flag bristol 06 Aug 19 8.54pm Send a Private Message to silvertop Add silvertop as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Maybe, we'll see. Conclusion for me: he's a good player. But 20 million for him?!?

Who pays that kind of money for a right back??

Very amusing

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 07 Aug 19 10.57am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by silvertop

Very amusing

Yo know I meant from teams like us, not Top 6 teams. Who pays that money for a right back? No one. Ever.

Leicester got 20 year old right back Justin James, similar player to Reece James and Bogle, for 6 million. What numbers are we talking about here?!

 

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View comeonyoueagles20's Profile comeonyoueagles20 Flag caterham 07 Aug 19 11.08am Send a Private Message to comeonyoueagles20 Add comeonyoueagles20 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Yo know I meant from teams like us, not Top 6 teams. Who pays that money for a right back? No one. Ever.

Leicester got 20 year old right back Justin James, similar player to Reece James and Bogle, for 6 million. What numbers are we talking about here?!

Leicester paid 22 million for Pereira.

 

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View Hudsoneagle's Profile Hudsoneagle Flag 07 Aug 19 11.08am Send a Private Message to Hudsoneagle Add Hudsoneagle as a friend

I would prefer Bogle to the Spurs kid. I dont think Palace can be spending 20m on full backs. If they are proven at this level and ready for the 1st team then 15m max. If they need to be developed then we should be offering much less

You could potentially pick up two young right backs and see which one develops into the best player.

 

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