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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 15 Sep 19 11.01pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

If anybody is saying we weren't crap then they are wrong. As for people saying Spurs were great, as I already said they weren't. They played direct and we couldn't handle it.
Fair enough, there was a degree of accuracy and urgency about what they did. I will say that. They could be in the top four at the end of the season but they don't seem as good as last season to me anyway.
Could have played Woods as a sweeper or Kouyate as a central defender. We lack pace at the back even if everyone was fit. Or am I also so wrong there? And yes some innovative tactics would not go amiss.
No point in not conceding anymore when you're already well down. You have to change things, you have to try to outscore them if you can't defend. Our team and manager seem literally unable to adapt at all.
I hardly think I'm the only one saying it. As for pundits - it doesn't make that much difference to me what Andy Gray or even Gary Neville thinks. I'm pretty sure I'm also not the only one who ignores them either.
We are Palace and the pundits have basically ignored us for years except to condescend us on the odd occasion.

You would play Woods, with just one first team start under his belt ( against Colchester ! ) as a sweeper ??! Seriously ?? Against England’s centre forward.....and if we lack pace at the back you think Kouyate would solve that ? If there’s a word for those tactics I for one wouldn’t be calling them “ innovative “.

As for outscoring teams, you may have noticed that we lack a consistent goal scorer and that prior to yesterday our defensive record was good. Hardly the basis for advocating all out attack . That would leave even more space for the opposition to play in.

It’s strange what a defeat against one of the best sides in Europe does to people.....

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 15 Sep 19 11.11pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

You would play Woods, with just one first team start under his belt ( against Colchester ! ) as a sweeper ??! Seriously ?? Against England’s centre forward.....and if we lack pace at the back you think Kouyate would solve that ? If there’s a word for those tactics I for one wouldn’t be calling them “ innovative “.

As for outscoring teams, you may have noticed that we lack a consistent goal scorer and that prior to yesterday our defensive record was good. Hardly the basis for advocating all out attack . That would leave even more space for the opposition to play in.

It’s strange what a defeat against one of the best sides in Europe does to people.....

Other teams change and bring on subs when clearly things aren't working. It was clear nothing was working early in the first half. The rhetorical question is when were our changes. There isn't a question mark. I'm tired of the team not responding when necessary. Around half of our performances so far this season have been poor; Villa was a decent performance. Man U was lucky. Everton solid.
You are right we can't score. God forbid we practice set pieces or something as innovative as that. If you can't score change something. We have who we have - do something different with them. Catch an opponent out. We are far too predictable and we have been worked out.

 


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View salop-eagle's Profile salop-eagle Flag 16 Sep 19 7.17am Send a Private Message to salop-eagle Add salop-eagle as a friend

I think Saturday shows just how important James McArthur is to our midfield. For all his faults, and he has a few, his energy, harassing and ability to work box to box for 90 mins was sadly lacking. He epitomises the work rate and discipline that we need against the top teams!

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 16 Sep 19 8.52am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

We were battered by the Champions League finalists who had a very good day and one of those days when all their chances hit the back of the net.

They have much better players than us all the way from 1 to 11.

Nobody expected us to win and we didnt win so move on and except the fact that we are no where near their level.

 

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View Brinscall Eagle's Profile Brinscall Eagle Flag Brinscall Lancashire/ Villamartin ... 16 Sep 19 8.58am Send a Private Message to Brinscall Eagle Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Brinscall Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

We were battered by the Champions League finalists who had a very good day and one of those days when all their chances hit the back of the net.

They have much better players than us all the way from 1 to 11.

Nobody expected us to win and we didnt win so move on and except the fact that we are no where near their level.

Perfect summation of the situation . We will have better days and probably worse days that is football at any club. COYP

 

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View Bexley Eagle's Profile Bexley Eagle Flag Bexley Kent 16 Sep 19 9.32am Send a Private Message to Bexley Eagle Add Bexley Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

Genius. Out of interest, who would you play in the sweeper role ?

How about Eddie McGoldrick. I seem to remember that working extremely well at Liverpool a few decades ago

 

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View OneWayTicketToMars's Profile OneWayTicketToMars Flag Selsdon 16 Sep 19 9.43am Send a Private Message to OneWayTicketToMars Add OneWayTicketToMars as a friend

This:
We were battered by the Champions League finalists who had a very good day and one of those days when all their chances hit the back of the net.

They have much better players than us all the way from 1 to 11.

Nobody expected us to win and we didnt win so move on and except the fact that we are no where near their level.

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I totally agree .... we will have are up and down days this season ... this was one of them. Very one of of spurs players is top class and I expected to get beat maybe by one or two .. it is what it is ... get past this game and on to the next. COYP

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 19 10.21am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

I was expecting us to be defeated but never expected to lose by 4 goals. I was horrified with the H/T score - at least we drew the second half.

At the end of the day, Hodgson’s target is to keep us in the PL and he believes that the style of play is best suited to achieve that objective.Functional, not attractive, a hard watch and this will continue until the end of the season. Bournemouth play very much on the front foot whereas we are all about shape discipline etc etc.

We will struggle to win games, and supporters just have to accept that we are not going to be entertained and the team might just pull off an unlikely win or two.Long hard season devoid of entertainment but if we remain in the PL many will feel that end justified the means.


 

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View cpj's Profile cpj Flag Kent 16 Sep 19 10.57am Send a Private Message to cpj Add cpj as a friend

We are a poor team.

We have a poor keeper who lets any shot in that goes at his near post. We have two full-backs who cannot defend and criminally we have no backup for either position. Our centre-halves are slow and ageing. Our midfielders have no creativity in them (indeed thay can barely pass to their own team) - yet we have two creative midfielders on the bench every week. Our wide players seem to have forgotten how to take people on and cross the ball, and out forward's main talent is that he's good at running about.

I've followed Palace for over 50 years and have been a season ticket holder for 35, yet I cannot remember a time when I've been less enthusiastic about going to watch them play. Even in the dark days of the mid-80s there were players at the club I wanted to see play. Hodgson has sucked the life out of the players he has and has just one method of playing. How often do we score an early goal? We must be the lowest first-half scorers in recent years. Football is meant to be entertainment - if this is the best we can expect from Hodgson then it is time he went and took his overdue retirement. Not all his fault of course - the appalling transfer policy in recent times has left him with an expensive, ageing squad of players that are not going to get any better. Rather than risk signing youngsters from the Championship, we go for expensive PL castoffs or foreign players who rarely seem to make the grade for us.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 16 Sep 19 11.11am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by cpj

We are a poor team.

We have a poor keeper who lets any shot in that goes at his near post. We have two full-backs who cannot defend and criminally we have no backup for either position. Our centre-halves are slow and ageing. Our midfielders have no creativity in them (indeed thay can barely pass to their own team) - yet we have two creative midfielders on the bench every week. Our wide players seem to have forgotten how to take people on and cross the ball, and out forward's main talent is that he's good at running about.

I've followed Palace for over 50 years and have been a season ticket holder for 35, yet I cannot remember a time when I've been less enthusiastic about going to watch them play. Even in the dark days of the mid-80s there were players at the club I wanted to see play. Hodgson has sucked the life out of the players he has and has just one method of playing. How often do we score an early goal? We must be the lowest first-half scorers in recent years. Football is meant to be entertainment - if this is the best we can expect from Hodgson then it is time he went and took his overdue retirement. Not all his fault of course - the appalling transfer policy in recent times has left him with an expensive, ageing squad of players that are not going to get any better. Rather than risk signing youngsters from the Championship, we go for expensive PL castoffs or foreign players who rarely seem to make the grade for us.

The sentiments expressed will strike a chord with many supporters.

Many just don’t look forward to attending home games any more, my good self included but Hodgson is setting us up with what he feels he needs to do to stave off relegation with the players he has at his disposal. Boring, negative dross on account of a poor squad.

 

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View slubglurge's Profile slubglurge Flag welling 16 Sep 19 11.13am Send a Private Message to slubglurge Add slubglurge as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

We were battered by the Champions League finalists who had a very good day and one of those days when all their chances hit the back of the net.

They have much better players than us all the way from 1 to 11.

Nobody expected us to win and we didnt win so move on and except the fact that we are no where near their level.


We dont have one player who would get in their team and im including Wilf in that whos value is dropping with every game

 

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View Bangell's Profile Bangell Flag Oxford 16 Sep 19 11.19am Send a Private Message to Bangell Add Bangell as a friend

Watched the highlights. Looks like Sakho definitely wasn't ready to start, but with no other fit options and 5 CBs in the squad that's not something that can really be complained about.

However, I maintain as I have since AWB was sold that neither of our full-backs should be starters.

 

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