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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 07 Oct 19 7.37pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by Ghostship

I was wondering who would take a pen if we got one and the thought of PVA didn't really occur to me. I was thinking Sclupp or Ayew would be the nominated ones but glad it was PVA

Always dodgy to keep a pen low though, Luka always does his quite high up, much harder for a keeper to dive upwards from the goal line if the ball is placed properly in the corner, lots of power too from Luka keeper has no time.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 07 Oct 19 7.53pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

..he is a very solid attacking player and his defending is at odds because of this, he does though put his body on the line brilliantly blocking shots, I have seen an improvement so far this season, but the whole defending display against Spurs was still scarily evident sadly.

 

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View Lyons550's Profile Lyons550 Flag Shirley 08 Oct 19 7.42am Send a Private Message to Lyons550 Add Lyons550 as a friend

We should be playing him on the wing not as a left back, he's a shocking defender, rarely cutting out crosses.

 


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View DutchEagleJohan's Profile DutchEagleJohan Flag Vlissingen, Netherlands 08 Oct 19 8.01am Send a Private Message to DutchEagleJohan Add DutchEagleJohan as a friend

Originally posted by Tickled pink

Always dodgy to keep a pen low though, Luka always does his quite high up, much harder for a keeper to dive upwards from the goal line if the ball is placed properly in the corner, lots of power too from Luka keeper has no time.

Not if you wait to decide where to place it until the keeper has moved.

 

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 08 Oct 19 11.39am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

Originally posted by Lyons550

We should be playing him on the wing not as a left back, he's a shocking defender, rarely cutting out crosses.

He's a wing back playing as a full back. He is certainly more attacking than defensive. However, the cover would be Schlupp or.... Reidewald.

 


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View braunstoneagle's Profile braunstoneagle Flag the middle of bumf*** nowhere... 08 Oct 19 5.17pm Send a Private Message to braunstoneagle Add braunstoneagle as a friend

i dont think we have any worries with PVA as our first choice full back.

is he perfect? no

is he part of one of the best defensive units in the league? yes

his pace gets him out of trouble sometimes, but going forward he is really good...he links up really well with whoever is playing in front of him.

 


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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 08 Oct 19 9.41pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by DutchEagleJohan

Not if you wait to decide where to place it until the keeper has moved.

Go to 1:16 to see what happens if you wait for the keeper to move.....

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View thetopgeezer's Profile thetopgeezer Flag Clapham Junction 09 Oct 19 9.18am Send a Private Message to thetopgeezer Add thetopgeezer as a friend

I'm loving Palace life at the moment and have no complaints ... Pva is the only Palace player I actually think will score when he bears down on goal. Wilf will blaze over. Jordan will fall over. Benteke will be playing with his phone. So when he stepped up on Saturday I thought of course it's PVA, he's Dutch so he'll score.

That said, I take it all back about Jordan. Particularly since Man U.

 

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View midlandspalace's Profile midlandspalace Flag kidderminster 10 Oct 19 10.11am Send a Private Message to midlandspalace Add midlandspalace as a friend

Which defender has made most tackles in the Premier League this season? PVA with 34. Only midfielder Ndidi with 36 has more.

Which full back has scored most goals in the last two seasons or so in the Premiership? PVA with 12.

 

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View Ginger Pubic Wig's Profile Ginger Pubic Wig Flag Wickham de L'Ouest 10 Oct 19 11.58am Send a Private Message to Ginger Pubic Wig Add Ginger Pubic Wig as a friend

interesting defensive stat on PVA...I'm always a little sceptical of stats because they are often going to reflect a team's setup. See a separate discussion on Wilf this term.

Even so, I still feel PVA's positioning is a weakness. Not just where he stands but often the way he angles his body isn't quite A1.

he does strike a ball cleanly i agree, although I often come away from games feeling like his passing has been below the level he's capable of...through a combination of absent mindedness and over confidence.

he sometimes passes into midfield only to find an opposing player. that's one of the most dangerous ways to cede control of the ball.


 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 10 Oct 19 12.13pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Ginger Pubic Wig

interesting defensive stat on PVA...I'm always a little sceptical of stats because they are often going to reflect a team's setup. See a separate discussion on Wilf this term.

Even so, I still feel PVA's positioning is a weakness. Not just where he stands but often the way he angles his body isn't quite A1.

he does strike a ball cleanly i agree, although I often come away from games feeling like his passing has been below the level he's capable of...through a combination of absent mindedness and over confidence.

he sometimes passes into midfield only to find an opposing player. that's one of the most dangerous ways to cede control of the ball.


I understand these sentiments entirely whilst adding that perhaps one could advance the argument that defenders are often forced into making tackles because they have been caught out of position.

Speaking to Alan Hansen a few years ago he said to me words to the effect that positioning is the key to good defending and he knew a thing or two about the defensive arts!


Edited by Willo (10 Oct 2019 12.14pm)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 10 Oct 19 12.46pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

I understand these sentiments entirely whilst adding that perhaps one could advance the argument that defenders are often forced into making tackles because they have been caught out of position.

Speaking to Alan Hansen a few years ago he said to me words to the effect that positioning is the key to good defending and he knew a thing or two about the defensive arts!


Edited by Willo (10 Oct 2019 12.14pm)

Well he had to didnt he....
Bearing in mind where hes from :

 

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