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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 09 Nov 19 1.11am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

" Man of the People " Chuka Umunna has changed his mind that the good people of Streatham are so impressed with him as their MP he would get elected no matter which party, so he has buggered off to City and Westminster.

At the time of posting Mr Umunna was a Liberal Democrat

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 09 Nov 19 2.10am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

He's very good at changing his mind. 10/10. Maybe eventually he'll actually hold a belief. Difficult for politicians of course, I appreciate that.

 

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 09 Nov 19 4.36am Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by dollardays

He's very good at changing his mind. 10/10. Maybe eventually he'll actually hold a belief. Difficult for politicians of course, I appreciate that.

Belief politicians sound all good in theory. Usually doesn’t work out too well in practice though; Hague, IDS, Foot, Kinnock, Clarke, Corbyn. All would’ve been much better off exhibiting a bit more flexibility.

 


Vive le Roy!

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View chris123's Profile chris123 Flag hove actually 09 Nov 19 6.38am Send a Private Message to chris123 Add chris123 as a friend

I wonder what local party members think about having the ubiquitous Chuka chucked in on them, and the candidate who stood before and presumably made way. Not very democratic.

 

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View dollardays's Profile dollardays Flag 09 Nov 19 6.40am Send a Private Message to dollardays Add dollardays as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

Belief politicians sound all good in theory. Usually doesn’t work out too well in practice though; Hague, IDS, Foot, Kinnock, Clarke, Corbyn. All would’ve been much better off exhibiting a bit more flexibility.

You make a good point but there's 'flexible' flexible, and then there's Stretch Armstrong flexible. There's something noble about at least genuinely believing in 'something', whatever it is, even if it's foolhardly. Rather Robin Hoods's final arrow than someone so malleable based on circumstance that they're a pile of political mush.

 

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Nov 19 8.02am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

That was announced a few weeks ago and he isn't the only defector to change seats as Luciana Berger has swapped constituencies but she has gone from one end of the country to the other as she has moved from Liverpool to Finchley and Golders Green where she obviously thinks that being Jewish should win her more votes

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 09 Nov 19 9.43am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That was announced a few weeks ago and he isn't the only defector to change seats as Luciana Berger has swapped constituencies but she has gone from one end of the country to the other as she has moved from Liverpool to Finchley and Golders Green where she obviously thinks that being Jewish should win her more votes

Identity politics will decide our Parliaments more and more.
The 'Anglo Saxons' will become second class citizens in their our own country just like under the Romans or the Normans but this time by stealth.

If we remain in the EU, the country will eventually be nothing more than an overpopulated province with a huge number of migrant workers governed locally by Asians under the umbrella of European central control.

Glad I won't be around.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 09 Nov 19 11.37am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That was announced a few weeks ago and he isn't the only defector to change seats as Luciana Berger has swapped constituencies but she has gone from one end of the country to the other as she has moved from Liverpool to Finchley and Golders Green where she obviously thinks that being Jewish should win her more votes

Sam Gyimah, formerly MP for East Surrey is contesting the Kensington seat for the EU loving Lib Dems who do not give two hoots for the 17.4 million people who voted to leave.

 

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 09 Nov 19 12.13pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle

That was announced a few weeks ago and he isn't the only defector to change seats as Luciana Berger has swapped constituencies but she has gone from one end of the country to the other as she has moved from Liverpool to Finchley and Golders Green where she obviously thinks that being Jewish should win her more votes

And she’d probably be right to think that. What’s wrong in choosing to stand in a constituency where you have more chance or winning? Of all the bad things politicians do, I can’t see how that’s one of them.

 


Vive le Roy!

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 09 Nov 19 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by chris123

I wonder what local party members think about having the ubiquitous Chuka chucked in on them, and the candidate who stood before and presumably made way. Not very democratic.

I saw an article about one of the defectors to the Lib Dems is going to contest the seat they hold. The local Lib Dems are not happy as their popular candidate narrowly lost to the defector in 2017 and they feel she has a good chance of winning it this time around so why go with a defector when you have one of your own with a real chance.

Sorry the details are vague it's my memory but your point is well made. When a MP defects the incoming party celebrate but don't stop to think how their local branch might feel especially if they felt the MP fought a nasty campaign against them and now they're expected to welcome them with open arms.

What can you do, vote for another party if it bothers you that much. Personally I would never vote for a defector it's like changing your football team you don't do it and I would never trust someone who did e.g. David Mellor.

Edited by Badger11 (09 Nov 2019 12.34pm)

 


One more point

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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 09 Nov 19 12.55pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

Identity politics will decide our Parliaments more and more.
The 'Anglo Saxons' will become second class citizens in their our own country just like under the Romans or the Normans but this time by stealth.

If we remain in the EU, the country will eventually be nothing more than an overpopulated province with a huge number of migrant workers governed locally by Asians under the umbrella of European central control.

Glad I won't be around.

On the plus side, immigration should help our sports teams & we might get some hot birds in too. Fingers crossed.

 


Vive le Roy!

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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 09 Nov 19 1.04pm Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by the.universal

And she’d probably be right to think that. What’s wrong in choosing to stand in a constituency where you have more chance or winning? Of all the bad things politicians do, I can’t see how that’s one of them.

If you are suggesting that there is nothing wrong with moving to a seat where you stand a better chance of winning because of your religion does that mean that voters elsewhere are more likely to vote for a candidate that is the same religion or race or colour as themselves?

 

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