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View Palace 1979's Profile Palace 1979 Flag Surrey 05 Oct 20 10.10pm Send a Private Message to Palace 1979 Add Palace 1979 as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

I have also supported the club for almost 50 years, and was also there during the third division years and the turgid mid eighties. I have seen some shocking players during those times, however I can't ever remember the side playing such negative stuff as we do now. We all knew we were shyte back then, but at least we tried to win instead of just sitting back and hoping for a draw.

Such as against Man Utd and Everton??????

 


Some people are like Slinkies Ö not really good for anything, but you canít help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 05 Oct 20 10.20pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by Palace 1979

Such as against Man Utd and Everton??????

No, such as Chelsea and loads last season. How many goals did we score again last season ?

There will always be fans who don't/won't see it, and the club banks on these.

They're not beyond criticism you know.

 

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View Palace 1979's Profile Palace 1979 Flag Surrey 05 Oct 20 10.28pm Send a Private Message to Palace 1979 Add Palace 1979 as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

I agree there are some things they can do better and we are very inconsistent at times but against Utd was as good a performance as any in many years, and you have to admit Roy has finally bought some stability after trying to change our ways as a club, trying a new dutch manager for example and we know how that went! The grass is not always greener, I have seen it so many times. We need to be more realistic with our expectations sometimes.

Eze is a good signing and Bats on loan, plus a good right back on a free is very sensible business.

No, such as Chelsea and loads last season. How many goals did we score again last season ?

There will always be fans who don't/won't see it, and the club banks on these.

They're not beyond criticism you know.

 


Some people are like Slinkies Ö not really good for anything, but you canít help smiling when you see one tumble down the stairs.

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M1EAGLE Flag Brisbane 05 Oct 20 10.30pm

Originally posted by martin2412

You can bet your life on it. As I've said on numerous occasions Parish is all pi55 and wind. He talks a good game but that's about it. I would bet that he had no intentions of making any moves for Watkins, Benrahma, Brewster or any striker that we've been supposedly linked with.

From the new ground at Crystal Palace Park, to the new stand, to bolstering the squad, everything that comes out of his mouth is cobblers and I can't believe there are still people out there who hang on to every word he spouts. I don't give a toss whether he saved the club 10 years ago, he can't dine out on that forever. If he can't continue to move the club forward then he needs to get out. The problem though is nobody wants to come in and take it, and that's probably because he's made it what it is today - unattractive due to stagnation.

The whole Palace experience has become one big disappointment after another. Take Saturday's game for example. I didn't expect to beat Chelsea, but I expect us to at least have a go. It was embarrassing. My Chelsea supporting mate who is usually quite sensible when appraising the opposition just said that we were pathetic, and the worse side he's seen in a long time. He laughed at the decision to take off two defensive midfielders and replace them with two defensive midfielders when we were chasing the game. I couldn't offer any defence to that because he was right.

A blind man can see where we need replacements, but Parish will stick with Roy despite some terrible results and performances because he knows that he won't rock the boat and is a 'Yes' man. That's why Allardyce and Pulis didn't stick around because they insisted on improvements to the squad, and who can blame them when ultimately it's their necks that are on the line ? They both saw that it was going to be a constant battle so both upped sticks.

I'm getting to the point where I'm starting to not give a furck, just as it appears that the management don't.

What absolute bollocks

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 05 Oct 20 10.38pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by M1EAGLE

What absolute bollocks

There speaks the voice of experience.
How many games a season do you get to then ?
When you do go, and put up with the s*** I have for the last few seasons I'll take your opinion into account.

Strewth.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 05 Oct 20 10.40pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

I have also supported the club for almost 50 years, and was also there during the third division years and the turgid mid eighties. I have seen some shocking players during those times, however I can't ever remember the side playing such negative stuff as we do now. We all knew we were shyte back then, but at least we tried to win instead of just sitting back and hoping for a draw.

How you seem to think the days of Mullery,Francis and Taylor to name but a few, all managing against lower level teams were more exciting than today's team is staggering.

 

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View martin2412's Profile martin2412 Flag The Big Wide World 05 Oct 20 10.44pm Send a Private Message to martin2412 Add martin2412 as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

How you seem to think the days of Mullery,Francis and Taylor to name but a few, all managing against lower level teams were more exciting than today's team is staggering.

If you were excited about our performance against Chelsea then you might want to get out more.

 

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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 05 Oct 20 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by martin2412

If you were excited about our performance against Chelsea then you might want to get out more.

Didn't you enjoy the 2 wins at Old Trafford recently or maybe it didn't give you a chance to moan about how negative and boring we are. If you think we are going to win every game in a free flowing style by bleating on social media, you have learnt nothing in your 50 years.

 

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 05 Oct 20 11.08pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Seems like the new normal is very much like the old normal.

We spend the window wishing for better. We now have a few months of arguing about whether we are going down or not, before we can get down to a winter window of wishing for better and being disappointed again, then arguing about relegation until ultimately we find out that we are just about good enough.

We are even managing to argue about who goes to more games - when we will all go to the same number (0) this year.

It canít be a surprise that we canít move forward when we have our marquee signings from the last few years generally performing like carthorses whilst earning a little shy of half a million a week in wages.

Given the parlous state of everything, I was pleased with this window. Eze will be great and we sold Sorloth for the same price. Kept Zaha. Not spent anything else, picked up a couple of others who might contribute in the long term and found Mitchell under the sofa somewhere. This might be the season when it all starts to turn round and we might be able to start getting some momentum.

It might be two or three seasons until we see it though.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Online Flag Kent 05 Oct 20 11.23pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Seems like the new normal is very much like the old normal.

We spend the window wishing for better. We now have a few months of arguing about whether we are going down or not, before we can get down to a winter window of wishing for better and being disappointed again, then arguing about relegation until ultimately we find out that we are just about good enough.

We are even managing to argue about who goes to more games - when we will all go to the same number (0) this year.

It canít be a surprise that we canít move forward when we have our marquee signings from the last few years generally performing like carthorses whilst earning a little shy of half a million a week in wages.

Given the parlous state of everything, I was pleased with this window. Eze will be great and we sold Sorloth for the same price. Kept Zaha. Not spent anything else, picked up a couple of others who might contribute in the long term and found Mitchell under the sofa somewhere. This might be the season when it all starts to turn round and we might be able to start getting some momentum.

It might be two or three seasons until we see it though.

Some interesting thoughts in here and a fair post.

Canít help but feel that in bold is a bit optimistic though. I think deep down as much as we hope for bigger and better investment in the team and a superstar manager to succeed Hodgson (which some may well want sooner than later) not much short of a success hungry billionaire taking over is going to see that happen. I think our best hope for anything grander than the current status quo is to sneak into Europe via the Burnley model whenever that was (time has become an alien thing to me of late).

If it is optimism on your behalf fair play, you never know and we can still but dream!

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 05 Oct 20 11.23pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by dp

Seems like the new normal is very much like the old normal.

We spend the window wishing for better. We now have a few months of arguing about whether we are going down or not, before we can get down to a winter window of wishing for better and being disappointed again, then arguing about relegation until ultimately we find out that we are just about good enough.


This was in a time when Zaha and Bolasie were playing better and Townsend was at his peak. In other years there was Dwight Gayle too. Last year was the hardest, as Jordan Ayew had to do wonders and the 1-0 victories were very lucky. Pretty close to relegation though.

This salvation won't be possible forever. Batshuayi should help a little up front, while Eze...I don't think he'll make much of a difference at this age. We have Zaha, so hopefully he is training well and having a good season and the back will look good with Cahil and Tomkins available in front of Guaita for at least 25-30 matches.

But the team needs better squad management.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 05 Oct 20 11.27pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

We know that the club is not going to splash out. Let's face it, that we actually went and paid what we did for Eze was a surprise (and he looks very promising).

Basically we are unable/unwilling to fish in the big pond that now has a 'no fishing' sign up till January.

However, we have 11 days in which to trawl the EFL, so let's see if we catch anything there before we give our final judgment on this window.

Posters keep posting about last season's 31 goal tally but conveniently ignore the previous season's 51 league goal tally (albeit most of them away from home).

Let's also remember that we currently have a full 25 man 1st team squad for a change.

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