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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 25 Jan 20 10.18am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Kelly and Ward both try their hardest every game but seems neither is PL quality. Not replacing AWB has left us exposed down the right and every opponent knows this.

If we don't get an upgrade RB this window looks like a less enjoyable second half of the season.

 


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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jan 20 10.28am Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Kelly and Ward both try their hardest every game but seems neither is PL quality. Not replacing AWB has left us exposed down the right and every opponent knows this.

If we don't get an upgrade RB this window looks like a less enjoyable second half of the season.

I disagree re Ward.

I think Joel Ward was having a good season until his injury.

Kelly did well for the first few games but ultimately started to struggle.

We need a proper back up / competition for the position. The fact that the club trousered £50m and then failed to do so is bewildering.

 


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View Ian-VI's Profile Ian-VI Flag Vicenza 25 Jan 20 10.34am Send a Private Message to Ian-VI Add Ian-VI as a friend

We should get a new rb yes, possibly of an age where he can improve and become a regular for the future, that's for sure.
This said, considering that the first 24 matches have been played with ward and Kelly resulting in a 11th place in the table, if we play ward and Kelly for the remaining 14 matches I expect an 11th position in the table for the 2nd half of the season.

 


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View CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE's Profile CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE Flag bloomfield 25 Jan 20 11.19am Send a Private Message to CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE Add CT GUY-BIGBALD EAGLE as a friend

wrong expectation. the other teams have a) been studying us all season and now know our weaknesses better, b) all other teams below and around us have worked to improve their squads or managers. if we dont fix right back, chances are we aregoing down. thank me later.

Originally posted by Ian-VI

We should get a new rb yes, possibly of an age where he can improve and become a regular for the future, that's for sure.
This said, considering that the first 24 matches have been played with ward and Kelly resulting in a 11th place in the table, if we play ward and Kelly for the remaining 14 matches I expect an 11th position in the table for the 2nd half of the season.

 

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View EaglesEaglesEagles's Profile EaglesEaglesEagles Flag 25 Jan 20 1.12pm Send a Private Message to EaglesEaglesEagles Add EaglesEaglesEagles as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I disagree re Ward.

I think Joel Ward was having a good season until his injury.

Kelly did well for the first few games but ultimately started to struggle.

We need a proper back up / competition for the position. The fact that the club trousered £50m and then failed to do so is bewildering.

The club did not trouser £50m. That money is not available for a number of reasons. Firstly, I don't think we've been making too much profit every season with our sizeable wage bill, so much of that cash will offset deficits. This is obvious and the hierarchy understands the need to spend, but it is still a factor.

The club is also planning to upgrade the academy to Grade 1 status and the plans look pretty ambitious with a fair bit of funding required.

Also, our approach is tentative because in this day and age clubs can hold us to ransom for their best players (we did the same with AWB). The strategy is complicated I would imagine and would involve careful scouting to minimise the risk of forking out for a flop. A decent England U21 right back in the Championship could go for upwards of £20m and not cut it in the Premier League.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 25 Jan 20 1.18pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

We always have to have no players to cover in at least one position - it's the Palace way.

 


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View jabber's Profile jabber Flag pease pottage 25 Jan 20 3.04pm Send a Private Message to jabber Add jabber as a friend

Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles

The club did not trouser £50m. That money is not available for a number of reasons. Firstly, I don't think we've been making too much profit every season with our sizeable wage bill, so much of that cash will offset deficits. This is obvious and the hierarchy understands the need to spend, but it is still a factor.

The club is also planning to upgrade the academy to Grade 1 status and the plans look pretty ambitious with a fair bit of funding required.
The club have trousered £50mill, wages come from the money awarded by the league not transfer fees hence for.

Also, our approach is tentative because in this day and age clubs can hold us to ransom for their best players (we did the same with AWB). The strategy is complicated I would imagine and would involve careful scouting to minimise the risk of forking out for a flop. A decent England U21 right back in the Championship could go for upwards of £20m and not cut it in the Premier League.

 

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View Pete53's Profile Pete53 Flag Hassocks 25 Jan 20 3.56pm Send a Private Message to Pete53 Add Pete53 as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I disagree re Ward.

I think Joel Ward was having a good season until his injury.

Kelly did well for the first few games but ultimately started to struggle.

We need a proper back up / competition for the position. The fact that the club trousered £50m and then failed to do so is bewildering.

Yes Ward was playing well. He did take some time to get back to near his best after his previous injury, however, he hasn't been out too long this time and hopefully he will be up to speed soon.

 

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Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles

The club did not trouser £50m. That money is not available for a number of reasons. Firstly, I don't think we've been making too much profit every season with our sizeable wage bill, so much of that cash will offset deficits. This is obvious and the hierarchy understands the need to spend, but it is still a factor.

The club is also planning to upgrade the academy to Grade 1 status and the plans look pretty ambitious with a fair bit of funding required.

Also, our approach is tentative because in this day and age clubs can hold us to ransom for their best players (we did the same with AWB). The strategy is complicated I would imagine and would involve careful scouting to minimise the risk of forking out for a flop. A decent England U21 right back in the Championship could go for upwards of £20m and not cut it in the Premier League.

The club didn't have £50m to spend from AWB sales as you say, an element of the fee was used to buy Martin Longs shares and repay directors loans.
The issue at right back has been compounded by the injury to Townsend, who offered cover for Ward\Kelly, Kelly seems to be exposed as whoever plays on the right wing Ayew or Meyer don't track back and cover. This in peoples minds makes Kelly a bad player, but he generally has a choice of 2 attacking players now to cover.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 25 Jan 20 5.16pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by NEILLO

I disagree re Ward.

I think Joel Ward was having a good season until his injury.

Kelly did well for the first few games but ultimately started to struggle.

We need a proper back up / competition for the position. The fact that the club trousered £50m and then failed to do so is bewildering.

I agree, We didnít miss AWB till Ward got injured.

 

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View southnorwoodhill's Profile southnorwoodhill Flag 25 Jan 20 7.18pm Send a Private Message to southnorwoodhill Add southnorwoodhill as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

I agree, We didnít miss AWB till Ward got injured.

And then he did, illustrating the paucity of available options...

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 25 Jan 20 8.16pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by EaglesEaglesEagles

The club did not trouser £50m. That money is not available for a number of reasons. Firstly, I don't think we've been making too much profit every season with our sizeable wage bill, so much of that cash will offset deficits. This is obvious and the hierarchy understands the need to spend, but it is still a factor.

The club is also planning to upgrade the academy to Grade 1 status and the plans look pretty ambitious with a fair bit of funding required.

Also, our approach is tentative because in this day and age clubs can hold us to ransom for their best players (we did the same with AWB). The strategy is complicated I would imagine and would involve careful scouting to minimise the risk of forking out for a flop. A decent England U21 right back in the Championship could go for upwards of £20m and not cut it in the Premier League.

I know all about the Academy plans thanks and have written about them on HOL a number of times.

However the club did receive ( if you prefer that term ) £50m and then failed to secure specialist back up at right back. I think you will find the manager had referred to this as an issue on more than one occasion.

And Iím not buying your ď holding to ransom ď theory and you shouldnít be selling it. Most clubs donít sell before they have lined up replacements. Palaceís strategy is more about chancing it and hoping ( in this case ) Ward didnít get injured. They got caught out.

 


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