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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Feb 20 11.41am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by southnorwoodhill

Aim for a Championship manager with ambition... Needs new owners though!

Who do you have in mind ?
Alex Neil, Thomas Frank, Mark Warburton, Danny Cowley, Lee Johnson etc etc?

Neil Warnock has a good record in the Championship!

 

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No choice of mine but this cloud could have a Silva lining

 


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View alcraig's Profile alcraig Flag Ashford 12 Feb 20 3.07pm Send a Private Message to alcraig Add alcraig as a friend

Paddy McCarthy is the one. Big gamble but when Freedman and Lawrence walked out for Bolton's money he ran the dressing room and the home match against Brighton we won 3 nil when that clown Holloway was announced manager, McCarthy was running it. He is a good tactician not scared to change tactics and is respected by all players. But any managerial change has to come with sacking Freedman and letting the manager identify players.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 12 Feb 20 3.13pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by alcraig

Paddy McCarthy is the one. Big gamble but when Freedman and Lawrence walked out for Bolton's money he ran the dressing room and the home match against Brighton we won 3 nil when that clown Holloway was announced manager, McCarthy was running it. He is a good tactician not scared to change tactics and is respected by all players. But any managerial change has to come with sacking Freedman and letting the manager identify players.

Interesting post. Agree with you totally re: freedman/transfers etc. but McCarthy oculd be a good wildcard shout.

Used to go to the gym in Beckenham and saw him in there once with a few young lads. Very imposing man but he was a lovely fella and seemed to have good rapport but authority with the kids.

His face sticks in my mind whenever I think back to that game vs Sheffield Wednesday, admittedly did not go but realised it was over (in packed pub unable to hear) when I saw his face and the reaction.

 


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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 13 Feb 20 8.21pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Rudi Hedman

Not this again. He was very difficult to work with for everyone at the training ground, turned the players off him in the days of needing them on your side, and allegedly showed no interest in any of our potential targets but didnít have any of his own either. Thatís all before playing systems and formations needing a fortune spent on it we didnít have and unsuited to the players and players so far out of position youíd think he was the opposition. Weíre yet to see him return to a big league for the reasons Iíve stated. Approached the job as if he had an amazing track record at a huge club. He isnít Jurgen Klopp or similar. Heís an excellent retired player but that means sh1t these days to players. If you canít cut it at the training ground youíre screwed.

That's an interesting synopsis. Possibly some of those criticisms are valid. As a player he won a lot its true and he won a few titles with Ajax. I think the Ajax way is to promote from within. 4 games is nothing though - Eddie Howe's Bournemouth also lost their first 4 that season. FdB also coming to a new country with barely a pre season to work with players and without Zaha in those first 4 league games. You or anybody else who didn't back him have no right to complain now. Parish pushed the panic button - and that is as much to do with fan pressure than any reasoned logic

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 13 Feb 20 8.27pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

That's an interesting synopsis. Possibly some of those criticisms are valid. As a player he won a lot its true and he won a few titles with Ajax as a manager. I think the Ajax way is to promote from within. 4 games is nothing though - Eddie Howe's Bournemouth also lost their first 4 that season. FdB also coming to a new country with barely a pre season to work with players and assess the squad and those 4 games were without Zaha . Nobody who didn't back him have no right to complain now. Parish pushed the panic button - and that is more to do with fan pressure than any reasoned logic

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Feb 20 8.43pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

That's an interesting synopsis. Possibly some of those criticisms are valid. As a player he won a lot its true and he won a few titles with Ajax. I think the Ajax way is to promote from within. 4 games is nothing though - Eddie Howe's Bournemouth also lost their first 4 that season. FdB also coming to a new country with barely a pre season to work with players and without Zaha in those first 4 league games. You or anybody else who didn't back him have no right to complain now. Parish pushed the panic button - and that is as much to do with fan pressure than any reasoned logic

Indeed they did,however they finished a creditable 9th the previous season,only losing 2 of their last 12 games.

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 13 Feb 20 8.48pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Indeed they did,however they finished a creditable 9th the previous season,only losing 2 of their last 12 games.

So what's your point - he had a season more time to lose 4 games so the panic was justified?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Feb 20 8.52pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

So what's your point - he had a season more time to lose 4 games so the panic was justified?

My interpretation of your message was that Howe kept his job despite losing his first 4 games in contrast to FDB.I asserted that Howe had more credit in the bank because of Bournemouth's position the previous season and the way they finished.Perhaps I am way off the mark in this respect!

In the final analysis, no manager loses his job after 4 games on results alone.

Edited by Willo (13 Feb 2020 8.58pm)

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 13 Feb 20 8.58pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

My interpretation of your message was that Howe kept his job despite losing his first 4 games in contrast to FDB.Perhaps I am way off the mark in this respect!

In the final analysis, no manager loses his job after 4 games on results alone.

Perhaps you are way off the mark. Your either given time or not. We lost our first 7 games that season irrespective of who was manager and until Zaha returned v Chelski

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Feb 20 9.05pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Vincehair

Perhaps you are way off the mark. Your either given time or not. We lost our first 7 games that season irrespective of who was manager and until Zaha returned v Chelski

Clearly Mr Parish decided that decisive action needed to be taken.

And as we all know that despite losing the first 7 PL games without scoring a single goal, Hodgson steered us to an 11th place position which was some feat in the circumstances.

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 13 Feb 20 10.24pm Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Clearly Mr Parish decided that decisive action needed to be taken.

And as we all know that despite losing the first 7 PL games without scoring a single goal, Hodgson steered us to an 11th place position which was some feat in the circumstances

Think it was just the fact that Zaha returned

 

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