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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Feb 20 4.53pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

The laudable Toby Young and co are setting up an free speech union, which if we can grow it is hopefully going to become a force for liberty in the online space.

Made an inappropriate joke online and activist morons trying to end your career?

Here's a link to the union page, I'll be joining myself in the summer.
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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 21 Feb 20 10.33pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Toby Young flirts with eugenics and yet he is regarded as laudable? Not everyone agrees.

Free speech is a perfectly fine aspiration to hold, but it can never mean that everything and anything can be said publicly. Hate speech is real. Freedom has to exist under the law and not beside it.

Nor does it mean that social media companies, or university campuses, must accept all views onto their platforms. They are their platforms and not those of anyone seeking to use them.

Unrestricted free thought, and free speech in private,, is not in question. That's everyone's right.

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Feb 20 10.51pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Eugenics can be a force for good just as it can be a force for the opposite.

There is nothing inherent in eugenics, it's purely down to how it's used.

So saying Young flirts with eugenics is kind of a meaningless statement. We could say lots of people 'flirt' with eugenics when they choose one person to mate with over other options.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2020 10.59pm)

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 21 Feb 20 10.56pm Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

As for hate speech.

Let me quote Orwell....A quote that amusingly can be found outside the BBC.

'If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.'

The soviets tried to introduce the concept of 'hate speech' at the UN after the second world war. Back then we had people who weren't fake conservatives and the concept was rejected. Our rules on speech were an example to the world, until the Blair government injected this sickness into our law books.

Now we have failures to the left of us, failures to the right....and in the middle...the failures are the worst of all.

f*** 'hate speech'.

I await and hope that Johnson gives these people the middle finger they so richly deserve.

Edited by Stirlingsays (21 Feb 2020 10.58pm)

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 22 Feb 20 12.24am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Toby Young and ‘laudable’ in the same sentence. Ha.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Feb 20 7.16am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Toby Young and ‘laudable’ in the same sentence. Ha.


Dan, Dan the one line man

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 22 Feb 20 9.00am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Midlands Eagle


Dan, Dan the one line man

Oh come on, the bloke is a tit

 


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View OllieMaidstoneEagle's Profile OllieMaidstoneEagle Flag Maidstone, Kent 22 Feb 20 9.10am Send a Private Message to OllieMaidstoneEagle Add OllieMaidstoneEagle as a friend

How about ‘equal speech’! Ollie’s Dad,Ash.

 


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View Midlands Eagle's Profile Midlands Eagle Flag 22 Feb 20 9.16am Send a Private Message to Midlands Eagle Add Midlands Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH


Oh come on, the bloke is a tit

I wouldn't know as I didn't read it just as I don't follow any of the links posted on here unless they are Palace related

 

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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 20 9.31am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

Oh come on, the bloke is a tit

Coming from you that's going to be an endorsement.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 22 Feb 20 9.50am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Stirlingsays

Coming from you that's going to be an endorsement.

He’s thick as sh*t too.

 


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View Stirlingsays's Profile Stirlingsays Flag 22 Feb 20 9.57am Send a Private Message to Stirlingsays Holmesdale Online Elite Member Add Stirlingsays as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

He’s thick as sh*t too.

Inadvertently you seem to be supporting his cause.

 

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