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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 13 Jun 20 3.38am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Let's start with the Guardian newspaper.

Funded by a cotton ( picked by slaves ) merchant who was anti Abraham Lincoln and was critical of the leaders of the Peterloo protest.

Yet today the paper is a refuge of columnists who make a good living promoting whatever left wing cause is the dish of the day and generally slagging off the UK.

The level of hypocrisy is hilarious.

Now, they cannot use the " that was in the past " arguement.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Jun 20 5.58am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Let's start with the Guardian newspaper.

Funded by a cotton ( picked by slaves ) merchant who was anti Abraham Lincoln and was critical of the leaders of the Peterloo protest.

Yet today the paper is a refuge of columnists who make a good living promoting whatever left wing cause is the dish of the day and generally slagging off the UK.

The level of hypocrisy is hilarious.

Now, they cannot use the " that was in the past " arguement.

Exactly

 

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View JRW2's Profile JRW2 Flag Dulwich 13 Jun 20 5.13pm Send a Private Message to JRW2 Add JRW2 as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Let's start with the Guardian newspaper.

Funded by a cotton ( picked by slaves ) merchant who was anti Abraham Lincoln and was critical of the leaders of the Peterloo protest.

Are you sure? Every account of those events that I've ever read states that that cotton merchant was so determined that the country should know the truth about what had happened that he wrote his own report and got it to London overnight before the government could publish its own lying version. He later founded the Manchester Guardian as a reformist newspaper.

(By the way, I despise the Guardian for what I see as its prejudiced reporting, verging on dishonesty.)

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jun 20 5.29pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

I just threw out a jar of Robertson's.

 

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View palace_in_frogland's Profile palace_in_frogland Flag In a broken dream 13 Jun 20 6.09pm Send a Private Message to palace_in_frogland Add palace_in_frogland as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I just threw out a jar of Robertson's.

I hope you saved the token.

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.27pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I just threw out a jar of Robertson's.

Golly! Well done

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 13 Jun 20 6.29pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

Are you sure? Every account of those events that I've ever read states that that cotton merchant was so determined that the country should know the truth about what had happened that he wrote his own report and got it to London overnight before the government could publish its own lying version. He later founded the Manchester Guardian as a reformist newspaper.

(By the way, I despise the Guardian for what I see as its prejudiced reporting, verging on dishonesty.)

He was certainly critical of Lincoln and made his money in the cotton trade. Seems he supported the slave trade to me, unless the lefties can put another slant on it? Wissie/Maple the floor is yours

 

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View georgenorman's Profile georgenorman Flag 13 Jun 20 6.32pm Send a Private Message to georgenorman Add georgenorman as a friend

Originally posted by BlueJay

I just threw out a jar of Robertson's.

Blackberry?

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 13 Jun 20 6.50pm Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by JRW2

Are you sure? Every account of those events that I've ever read states that that cotton merchant was so determined that the country should know the truth about what had happened that he wrote his own report and got it to London overnight before the government could publish its own lying version. He later founded the Manchester Guardian as a reformist newspaper.

(By the way, I despise the Guardian for what I see as its prejudiced reporting, verging on dishonesty.)

The guy who came after the original owner was the one that set the tone of the Guardian as a radical left paper. I think the original owner was radical to a point but then you could argue that Donald Trump is radical, radical doesn't mean left wing.

 


One more point

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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 13 Jun 20 7.56pm Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

I smoke and drink

 


Red and Blue Army!

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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 13 Jun 20 9.25pm Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by Spiderman

He was certainly critical of Lincoln and made his money in the cotton trade. Seems he supported the slave trade to me, unless the lefties can put another slant on it? Wissie/Maple the floor is yours

"I am not nor ever have been in favour of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people.... There is a physical difference between the white and black races which in my judgement will probably forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality..

And..

Our republican system was meant for a homogeneous people. As long as blacks continue to live with the whites they constitute a threat to the national life. Family life may also collapse and the increase of mixed breed b******s may some day challenge the supremacy of the white man.

Abraham Lincoln.

 


"You can lead a horse to water but a pencil must be lead"

Stan Laurel

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 14 Jun 20 2.08am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

My source for Peterloo is only wikipedia

" Taylor witnessed the Peterloo massacre in 1819, but was unimpressed by its leaders, writing:[3]

They have appealed not to the reason but to the passions and the suffering of their abused and credulous fellow-countrymen, from whose ill-requited industry they extort for themselves the means of a plentiful and comfortable existence

But the radical press in Manchester, in particular the Manchester Observer did support the protests, and it was not until the Observer was closed by successive police prosecutions that the road was clear for a newspaper closer to Taylor's liberal-minded mill-owning friends.[4]

The Mike Leigh film was a mix of history and propaganda made to make Islington Socialists feel even better about themselves

In 1821 the members of the Little Circle excluding Cowdroy backed John Edward Taylor in founding the Manchester Guardian, published by law only once a week, which Taylor continued to edit until his death.


So in essence he said the leaders were able to make the workers/masses believe anything forged out a very comfortable existence for themselves.

Later this morphed into Union subs, Labour party subs, etc

This has never changed, Scargill, Kinnocks, Blairs, other top union officials. left wing journos etc etc

Quite prophetic

Are you sure? Every account of those events that I've ever read states that that cotton merchant was so determined that the country should know the truth about what had happened that he wrote his own report and got it to London overnight before the government could publish its own lying version. He later founded the Manchester Guardian as a reformist newspaper.

(By the way, I despise the Guardian for what I see as its prejudiced reporting, verging on dishonesty.)

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Edited by HKOwen (14 Jun 2020 2.18am)

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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