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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 04 Jul 20 7.31pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

At the end of the day Roy is not going to be our manager for much longer one season more at most .So we should rebuild from now top to bottom and go again next season .

 

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View redshift's Profile redshift Flag Toronto 04 Jul 20 7.40pm Send a Private Message to redshift Add redshift as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

If Dyche is available this summer I think we should go for him, Roy is not getting any younger and the idea of a transition period or handover never works. You end up employing the best manager you can at the time you need them.

If Dyche is not available I am happy for Roy to continue for next season and then review.

We are not the only ones thinking along these lines. If I were Manchester United I would be thinking about Poch because he is available now end of next season he may not be.

I can't believe that if Dyche is leaving Burnley he would even consider Palace. Another small market team with no money and few concrete reasons to believe things will get better soon.
As to the question, I think we'll need to keep Roy. He's still our best bet but given his age we need to think replacement sooner rather than later.

 


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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Jul 20 7.55pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by redshift

I can't believe that if Dyche is leaving Burnley he would even consider Palace. Another small market team with no money and few concrete reasons to believe things will get better soon.
As to the question, I think we'll need to keep Roy. He's still our best bet but given his age we need to think replacement sooner rather than later.

This is a good example as to how people mis-represent us and try to manage expectations down... our wage budget is roughly £32m per year more than Burnley’s.

Their highest ever transfer fees are;

- Gibson, £15m
- Wood, £15m
- Brady, £14m
- Gray, £11m

Ours are;

- Benteke, £32m
- Sakho, £30m
- Townsend, £15m
- Mili, £15m

This talk of Hodgson’s miracles is not based in any sort of reality.

 

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View EverybodyDannsNow's Profile EverybodyDannsNow Flag SE19 04 Jul 20 7.59pm Send a Private Message to EverybodyDannsNow Add EverybodyDannsNow as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglehamster

I wish an interviewer had asked Roy to explain his use of substitutes today.

We go 1 down: He subs a creative midfielder for a defensive midfielder

We are 2 down: He replaces a defender with Andros (hooray) and Benteke with a defender. So Andros has no target man to aim for.

Surely these tactics are from someone who has lost their marbles.

Today has put me in the 'Roy must go' camp.


I also thought Riedewald was one of our best players when Roy decided to haul him off after 60 mins for another defensive midfielder who’s far worst in possession.

No doubt he’ll be resigned for bench for the rest of the season now.

 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 04 Jul 20 8.08pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Riedwald was good first half but ran out of steam .Begs the question why.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 04 Jul 20 8.12pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

Wage budget is far more indicative of squad quality, and the correlation between wage bill and league finish is far stronger than transfer spend/league finish.

Did Hodgson sign Sakho and Beneteke and agree to pay them in excess of £100k per week ?

These 2 players have been a financial drain on the club and have not merited either the transfer fees or wages paid. Although I would accept that both signings seemed good at the time.

Our transfer budget will remain tight while we have the likes of those two plus Zaha on our books ( and yes, I'm aware that Benteke's new contract may have been at reduced terms )

It's about time that some thought was given to a squad rebuild and who will oversee it given the short term contracts that Hodgson is employed under

 


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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 04 Jul 20 8.13pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

Absolutely agree about Riedewald playing well.
And yet I knew he would be hauled off and I mentioned it to my son at half time.
The only mistake I made was I thought it would be Mcarthy instead of Kouyate who would come on.
Please can somebody explain how those substitutions were designed to get us back in the game?
My son opined Hodgson was trying to protect the goal difference at 2-0 but then Leicester scores a third!

 

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View Rachid Rachid Rachid's Profile Rachid Rachid Rachid Flag 04 Jul 20 8.13pm Send a Private Message to Rachid Rachid Rachid Add Rachid Rachid Rachid as a friend

Originally posted by EverybodyDannsNow

This is a good example as to how people mis-represent us and try to manage expectations down... our wage budget is roughly £32m per year more than Burnley’s.

Their highest ever transfer fees are;

- Gibson, £15m
- Wood, £15m
- Brady, £14m
- Gray, £11m

Ours are;

- Benteke, £32m
- Sakho, £30m
- Townsend, £15m
- Mili, £15m

This talk of Hodgson’s miracles is not based in any sort of reality.

But those are all players put on big contracts three or four years ago and are now in decline.

Townsends problems with niggling injury and consistency have been there since day one and wont be getting any better with age.

Age, injuries and inability to regain fitness mean Sakho is now looking on the way down (being kind).

WRT the wage bill Meyer is also a lightweight on £80k a week and IIRC Scott Dann negotiated a hefty and valuable contract when his stock with us was at its greatest.

Benteke doesn't require explanation other than his 20 from 23 good chances missed during 2017-18. This stuff about him just needing service and to get his confidence back is bollocks.


 

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View AERO's Profile AERO Flag 04 Jul 20 8.36pm Send a Private Message to AERO Add AERO as a friend

Agree about Benteke can't have many supporters left had numerous balls to his feet today and couldn't control anything. Total waste of space should get rid of him and Sakho asap.

 

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View Sthlondonuk's Profile Sthlondonuk Flag STH NORWOOD 04 Jul 20 9.45pm Send a Private Message to Sthlondonuk Add Sthlondonuk as a friend

Agree Benteke should be equal to Ings or Giroud but is clumsy and seems to have no eye for a goal or where to be Think back to Kevin Phillips older player but seemed to know where the ball would be without chasing and almost all his shots were on target. Benteke should be moved on if anyone will take him

 

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View GMcC's Profile GMcC Flag Dubai 04 Jul 20 10.06pm Send a Private Message to GMcC Add GMcC as a friend

Yes - Roy should go now. And to have ambition of Dyche as a replacement, why? SP show some ambition please. Yes your Dutch project failed, but please don’t let that stifle any new ideas - what we are seeing now is not good enough - plan a boring at best and so safe - until we concede - then where is plan b c d e ?? Come on - have some balls!

 

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View A1969Eagle's Profile A1969Eagle Flag Redhill 04 Jul 20 10.49pm Send a Private Message to A1969Eagle Add A1969Eagle as a friend

Roy is not the problem?? How strange...
Whys its only Zaha fault would he not be bored by negative tactics, have you thought about that?
Why will he not be flexible with his only Plan A, why does Plan A have to be the same against Liverpool & Burnley. Everyone knows our Plan A.

Originally posted by Beetle

Roy’s not the problem, he’s not been given any funds for several seasons and we’ve been comfortable. The board should back him with some new players. Zaha wants to leave, but Palace have priced him out of the market. This season it’s been boring watching Palace but when I get my head right I recall losing at home to scunthorpe and Barnsley and suddenly things ain’t so bad. At least the board are being careful as surely no one wants administration again, but some excitement is needed. The sad thing is I didn’t go to the Watford game due to the drudgery of watching Palace this season, clearly with what has transpired since , I wish i had gone now.

Football without fans is actually ridiculous, I thought with the restart we might be a bit more exciting given we are virtually safe but apart from the Bournemouth game it’s the same old. That being said Palace being Palace are always liable to find a result against the so called top 6, but perhaps it’s best we don’t get the Europa league spots with the squad as is , as well as the fact no one will be able to go to the games if this behind closed doors continues.

 

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