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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 13 Jul 20 7.42pm Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

To be honest I think its all a bit hit and miss . Some people work well at one club and not another . A good record doesn't guarantee they would be any good elsewhere .

I dont think it would matter much who follows Roy be it this year or next . If we are not going to rebuild the squad with quality we are are only heading in one direction .

And that is going to cost ...

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Jul 20 8.59pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

I just have to recommend Mircea Lucescu, one of the best team builders in football. Speaker of many foreign languages and self-educated from a young age, he controlled all aspects of the Romanian tram in the 1980s and put the basis of the team of Gheorghe Hagi, Florin Raducioiu, Lupescu and others from the 1990s. Went to Italy where he won the Serie B with Brescia and then trained one of the Big 3 of Italian football (Inter Milano) gor a few months, with President Massimo Moratti admitting after years that Lucescu was doing well and should have been given more patience.


Hired by Galatasaray of Turkey, he won the European Supercup in 2000 against Real Madrid and won the league, qualifying them to the Champions League. A year later he was dismissed by the President and immediately won the league with the other Istanbul team, Besiktas, proving everyone at Galatasaray wrong. Took Besiktas to the Champions League with good results.

Was hired by Ukrainean Shakhtar Donesk and proved one of the best managers in the world, bringing in players such as Luiz Adriano, Willian, Fernandinho, Jadson, Ilsinho, Alex Teixeira, Douglas Costa, Taison etc,all (except for Willian who cost 15 million) for under 10 million and selling them for much more to big European teams.

Furthermore, the team played one of the most attractive football on Europe, with Champions League wins against Chelsea or Barcelona in all its glory (Messi, Villa, Pedro,Xavi, Iniesta etc) and being the European manager most closely resembling Guardiola.

In 2009 they even beat Tottenham, Dynamo Kiev and Werder Bremen in the final stages in order to win the Europa League and Lucescu was named the BEST MANAGER IN EUROPE IN THAT SEASON.

[Link]

Lok at the other managers on that list. Who could Palace afford? Sir Alex Ferguson? Pep Guardiola? Jupp Heynkess? Luis Enrique? Joaquim Low? Zidane? Jurgen Klopp?

Stayed in Shakhtar for more than 10 years and still remains close friends with the rich owner there, Rinat Ahmetov. Won the league on almoat every year even though Dynamo Loev was politically connected and had maybe a bigger budget and favourable refereeing. But most of all.....the playing style was amazing!!!

Here are Shakhtar's results in Europe with him:
[Link]


Recently managed the Turkey national team in a period of crisis and changed it with 10-15 new players no one had heard of. The results weren't immediate and ome loses with strong teams like Russia or Sweden cost hom his job, but afterwards those players that he had promoted to the national team managed to qualify it to the Euro Championship.

The manager is on the old side, being a little over 70, but is a very healthy and sane and intelligent individual. He reads many football books and has inovative tactical approacges, his former players testifying that he used to inform them everything about opponents,from their prefered foot to how they move and their vulnerabilities.

He is out of contract and is the best manager in the world that I have studied.

Also, The Hungarian-Romanian-French Ladislau Boloni is a great manager,winner of both Portuguese and Belgium leagues with teams that really weren't favourites (Sporting Lisbon and Standard Liege) and former coach of Cristiano Ronaldo in his first years.

Also free of contract after literally creating a powerful team in Belgium out of nothing- Royal Antwerp.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 13 Jul 20 9.28pm Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I just have to recommend Mircea Lucescu, one of the best team builders in football. Speaker of many foreign languages and self-educated from a young age, he controlled all aspects of the Romanian tram in the 1980s and put the basis of the team of Gheorghe Hagi, Florin Raducioiu, Lupescu and others from the 1990s. Went to Italy where he won the Serie B with Brescia and then trained one of the Big 3 of Italian football (Inter Milano) gor a few months, with President Massimo Moratti admitting after years that Lucescu was doing well and should have been given more patience.


Big problem is he is retired from football coaching.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 13 Jul 20 10.47pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by EddieMac

Big problem is he is retired from football coaching.

Not retired, just waited the last few months for the right offer. I know him well.

He has just had offers from Switzerland and Brazil clubs lately (Santos) but he is waiting for an offer from a top league.

 

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Originally posted by beak

Roy Hodgson,he took over after DeBoer nearly wrecked the club and quite frankly we haven't looked back since.

It was 4 games. The Huddersfield and Swansea games were abysmal, but he really only dropped us 6 points you'd expect us to have won that season.

We brought in Reidewald, RLC, and TFM. So didn't break the bank.

Swift action by Parish stopped him from doing any real damage.

The fixtures at the start of the season made it seem like we had a mountain to climb. In reality we had a brilliant squad and the pressure we were under helped them all perform.

Venables and Taylor managed to wreck the club.

 

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View Mr Palaceman's Profile Mr Palaceman Flag 14 Jul 20 2.17am Send a Private Message to Mr Palaceman Add Mr Palaceman as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

I just have to recommend Mircea Lucescu, one of the best team builders in football. Speaker of many foreign languages and self-educated from a young age, he controlled all aspects of the Romanian tram in the 1980s and put the basis of the team of Gheorghe Hagi, Florin Raducioiu, Lupescu and others from the 1990s. Went to Italy where he won the Serie B with Brescia and then trained one of the Big 3 of Italian football (Inter Milano) gor a few months, with President Massimo Moratti admitting after years that Lucescu was doing well and should have been given more patience.


Hired by Galatasaray of Turkey, he won the European Supercup in 2000 against Real Madrid and won the league, qualifying them to the Champions League. A year later he was dismissed by the President and immediately won the league with the other Istanbul team, Besiktas, proving everyone at Galatasaray wrong. Took Besiktas to the Champions League with good results.

Was hired by Ukrainean Shakhtar Donesk and proved one of the best managers in the world, bringing in players such as Luiz Adriano, Willian, Fernandinho, Jadson, Ilsinho, Alex Teixeira, Douglas Costa, Taison etc,all (except for Willian who cost 15 million) for under 10 million and selling them for much more to big European teams.

Furthermore, the team played one of the most attractive football on Europe, with Champions League wins against Chelsea or Barcelona in all its glory (Messi, Villa, Pedro,Xavi, Iniesta etc) and being the European manager most closely resembling Guardiola.

In 2009 they even beat Tottenham, Dynamo Kiev and Werder Bremen in the final stages in order to win the Europa League and Lucescu was named the BEST MANAGER IN EUROPE IN THAT SEASON.

[Link]

Lok at the other managers on that list. Who could Palace afford? Sir Alex Ferguson? Pep Guardiola? Jupp Heynkess? Luis Enrique? Joaquim Low? Zidane? Jurgen Klopp?

Stayed in Shakhtar for more than 10 years and still remains close friends with the rich owner there, Rinat Ahmetov. Won the league on almoat every year even though Dynamo Loev was politically connected and had maybe a bigger budget and favourable refereeing. But most of all.....the playing style was amazing!!!

Here are Shakhtar's results in Europe with him:
[Link]


Recently managed the Turkey national team in a period of crisis and changed it with 10-15 new players no one had heard of. The results weren't immediate and ome loses with strong teams like Russia or Sweden cost hom his job, but afterwards those players that he had promoted to the national team managed to qualify it to the Euro Championship.

The manager is on the old side, being a little over 70, but is a very healthy and sane and intelligent individual. He reads many football books and has inovative tactical approacges, his former players testifying that he used to inform them everything about opponents,from their prefered foot to how they move and their vulnerabilities.

He is out of contract and is the best manager in the world that I have studied.

Also, The Hungarian-Romanian-French Ladislau Boloni is a great manager,winner of both Portuguese and Belgium leagues with teams that really weren't favourites (Sporting Lisbon and Standard Liege) and former coach of Cristiano Ronaldo in his first years.

Also free of contract after literally creating a powerful team in Belgium out of nothing- Royal Antwerp.

You convinced me...

 


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View JohnB's Profile JohnB Flag 14 Jul 20 10.52am Send a Private Message to JohnB Add JohnB as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

Not retired, just waited the last few months for the right offer. I know him well.

He has just had offers from Switzerland and Brazil clubs lately (Santos) but he is waiting for an offer from a top league.

Erm isn't he older than Hodgson?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 14 Jul 20 11.04am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by JohnB

Erm isn't he older than Hodgson?

Lucescu is indeed older than Hodgson.
He is 75 later this month.

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 14 Jul 20 11.41am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

Whomever we go for I think we need to look for a manager who has experience managing a club of our size and abilities. Stéphane Moulin, for example, has done an unbelievable job at Angers in Ligue 1 turning them into a stable top flight club but operating with a small budget. Whether he could translate that to the PL is another question though (and whether he'd want to!). Personally I think Parish will have Dyche as his number one target as he ticks the boxes of PL experience and working within a budget, but whether he could get him is probably dependent on our budget and his willingness to hand over some level of control to the manager in terms of transfers.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 14 Jul 20 11.50am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Lucescu is indeed older than Hodgson.
He is 75 later this month.


He is very intelligent and capable though. I don't know how to describe this....he is very strong and sane. He speaks with great rapidity and has lived a very sportive life. He looks like a wrestler, kind of like Arnold when he became Governor of California.

He is not the Roy Hodgson old looking type.

It's different for people. Age is just a number. Some people age faster, Lucescu ages very slow.

And again...that other proposition,Ladislau Boloni is realy good too and a bit younger.

Edited by mattteo (14 Jul 2020 11.51am)

 

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View lexmark87's Profile lexmark87 Flag 14 Jul 20 11.52am Send a Private Message to lexmark87 Add lexmark87 as a friend

deboar was given 4 games to change our playing style and parish bottled it.
his last game against burnley was the best i have seen palace play in years very unlucky to loose that one.

It was 4 games. The Huddersfield and Swansea games were abysmal, but he really only dropped us 6 points you'd expect us to have won that season.

We brought in Reidewald, RLC, and TFM. So didn't break the bank.

Swift action by Parish stopped him from doing any real damage.

The fixtures at the start of the season made it seem like we had a mountain to climb. In reality we had a brilliant squad and the pressure we were under helped them all perform.

Venables and Taylor managed to wreck the club.

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 14 Jul 20 12.03pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by lexmark87

deboar was given 4 games to change our playing style and parish bottled it.
his last game against burnley was the best i have seen palace play in years very unlucky to loose that one.

It was 4 games. The Huddersfield and Swansea games were abysmal, but he really only dropped us 6 points you'd expect us to have won that season.

We brought in Reidewald, RLC, and TFM. So didn't break the bank.

Swift action by Parish stopped him from doing any real damage.

The fixtures at the start of the season made it seem like we had a mountain to climb. In reality we had a brilliant squad and the pressure we were under helped them all perform.

Venables and Taylor managed to wreck the club.


Even Dyche admitted that Burnley were lucky to get anything out of that game never mind win it. De Boer tried to do too much too soon. Had he tried to change things gradually he might still be with us and we would be enjoying a better style of football. BUT that's all history. The point is, I don't see SP going for anyone other than Dyche when he/Roy deems it time for Roy to go.

 

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