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View stanzerman's Profile stanzerman Flag Hastings 13 Jul 20 4.20pm Send a Private Message to stanzerman Add stanzerman as a friend

Despite yet another inept performance we shouldn't be too critical of the players. Bear in mind that professional footballers have been greatly inconvenienced by the corvid virus. Some of them have even had to clean their own pools, do their own cooking and even comb their own hair. They have been forced to sit at home twiddling their thumbs while enduring many thousands and thousands of pounds being regularrily shovelled into their bank accounts without them doing anything to earn it. This must have been very embarrassing for them. It must have come as a nasty shock to find that they suddenly have to start working again for their money. To make it even worse they are now being forced to work at a time when they would normally be jetting off to exotic holiday destinations. It is small wonder that they are not motivated to try and get a win bonus when all the five star restaurants, night clubs, wine bars and casinos where they could spend the win bonus are still closed

 


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View *jack*'s Profile *jack* Flag Eastbourne 13 Jul 20 4.35pm Send a Private Message to *jack* Add *jack* as a friend

Or maybe they've been found out as the group of very average players that they are managed by a management whose only ambition is to survive another season.
Pardew got fired for having ambition to get the team to a Cup Final and also stay in the Premiership, but only just. What progress has been made since?

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 20 4.46pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by *jack*

Or maybe they've been found out as the group of very average players that they are managed by a management whose only ambition is to survive another season.
Pardew got fired for having ambition to get the team to a Cup Final and also stay in the Premiership, but only just. What progress has been made since?

Pardew received his marching orders after losing 8 of his previous 10 games with the side in 17th place after 17 games.The previous season, we finished 15th under him.
Since he has left we have finished 14th, 11th and 12th.

 

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View Booted Eagle's Profile Booted Eagle Flag Bristol 13 Jul 20 4.54pm Send a Private Message to Booted Eagle Add Booted Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Pardew received his marching orders after losing 8 of his previous 10 games with the side in 17th place after 17 games.The previous season, we finished 15th under him.
Since he has left we have finished 14th, 11th and 12th.

We won 6 matches in 36 games in 2016, telling you the management can take a lot over seasons. Forget about 8 on the slide !! Roy's name is already in the dug out for next season.

 


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View Willo's Profile Willo Online Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 13 Jul 20 4.59pm Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

We won 6 matches in 36 games in 2016, telling you the management can take a lot over seasons. Forget about 8 on the slide !! Roy's name is already in the dug out for next season.

His name will be polished until it gleams like a brass knob.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jul 20 5.04pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Booted Eagle

We won 6 matches in 36 games in 2016, telling you the management can take a lot over seasons. Forget about 8 on the slide !! Roy's name is already in the dug out for next season.

There is a bias towards recent results and a tendency to enter doom and gloom mode when we're going through a bad patch. I'd not be entirely against Roy moving on, and he looked to be on very shaky ground in say February, but like you say I can't see him going now.

 

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 13 Jul 20 5.06pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

Pardew received his marching orders after losing 8 of his previous 10 games with the side in 17th place after 17 games.The previous season, we finished 15th under him.
Since he has left we have finished 14th, 11th and 12th.

In Pardew's first game in charge our starting line up was:

Speroni, Ward, Delaney, Dann, Kelly, Puncheon, Ledley, McArthur, Bannan, Gayle, and Murray. Our current squad is much better. We were in the relegation zone and looked hopeless. He did a fantastic job that season then took us to 7 minutes away from winning the FA Cup.

In the end he just got found out and was too slow to change the team.

I had a few friends involved at Newcastle. They all said he was a brilliant motivator. Shame about the tactics.

He can take credit for our highest premier league finish and second FA cup final.

I feel their is a double standard between Pardew/Hodgson.

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 13 Jul 20 5.15pm Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by stanzerman

Despite yet another inept performance we shouldn't be too critical of the players. Bear in mind that professional footballers have been greatly inconvenienced by the corvid virus. Some of them have even had to clean their own pools, do their own cooking and even comb their own hair. They have been forced to sit at home twiddling their thumbs while enduring many thousands and thousands of pounds being regularrily shovelled into their bank accounts without them doing anything to earn it. This must have been very embarrassing for them. It must have come as a nasty shock to find that they suddenly have to start working again for their money. To make it even worse they are now being forced to work at a time when they would normally be jetting off to exotic holiday destinations. It is small wonder that they are not motivated to try and get a win bonus when all the five star restaurants, night clubs, wine bars and casinos where they could spend the win bonus are still closed

I bet some bit get a bit too pampered and lazy in lockdown, but don't blame the paella.

 

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View Tickled pink's Profile Tickled pink Flag Cornwall 14 Jul 20 11.24pm Send a Private Message to Tickled pink Add Tickled pink as a friend

Originally posted by jeeagles

In Pardew's first game in charge our starting line up was:

Speroni, Ward, Delaney, Dann, Kelly, Puncheon, Ledley, McArthur, Bannan, Gayle, and Murray. Our current squad is much better. We were in the relegation zone and looked hopeless. He did a fantastic job that season then took us to 7 minutes away from winning the FA Cup.

In the end he just got found out and was too slow to change the team.

I had a few friends involved at Newcastle. They all said he was a brilliant motivator. Shame about the tactics.

He can take credit for our highest premier league finish and second FA cup final.

I feel their is a double standard between Pardew/Hodgson.

You cannot be serious, he allowed Murray to leave! and I'd have all of those players back with us now, Pardew wanted to out score teams and that was that, it was a fun/ horror roller coaster for both sets of fans watching, under Hodgson we will always be safe in regards to position and the football on the pitch, it is up to the club to make decisions on where we go and with who at the end of next season when Hodgson steps down after another safe season, this is giving the club time to organise itself without the fear of relegation.

 

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Originally posted by Tickled pink

You cannot be serious, he allowed Murray to leave! and I'd have all of those players back with us now, Pardew wanted to out score teams and that was that, it was a fun/ horror roller coaster for both sets of fans watching, under Hodgson we will always be safe in regards to position and the football on the pitch, it is up to the club to make decisions on where we go and with who at the end of next season when Hodgson steps down after another safe season, this is giving the club time to organise itself without the fear of relegation.

You would seriously have Delaney, Puncheon,Ledley, Bannan and Gayle back? Murray I can understand but we already have 3 better centre halfs than Delaney, Puncheon couldn't even kick a football the last 2 years he played, Bannan and Ledley were bang average midfielders who would struggle to get in most PL sides and Gayle has proven himself with many teams to be PL fringes or Championship standard football only.

We sold Murray at the time for what most agreed to be a lot of money, but in retrospect it was a poor decision.

I also don't think we will always be safe with Hodgson. If its the same team and the the same tactics next season, we are going down.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 15 Jul 20 12.46pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

who allowed Murray to leave?

It would have been SP not Roy

Originally posted by Tickled pink

You cannot be serious, he allowed Murray to leave! and I'd have all of those players back with us now, Pardew wanted to out score teams and that was that, it was a fun/ horror roller coaster for both sets of fans watching, under Hodgson we will always be safe in regards to position and the football on the pitch, it is up to the club to make decisions on where we go and with who at the end of next season when Hodgson steps down after another safe season, this is giving the club time to organise itself without the fear of relegation.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View jeeagles's Profile jeeagles Flag 15 Jul 20 1.16pm Send a Private Message to jeeagles Add jeeagles as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

who allowed Murray to leave?

It would have been SP not Roy

Murray was better than any option we have now but also perpetually injured.

When Pardew left, we had no defenders and no decent holding midfielders. We had to take gung-ho approach because we had no chance of keeping a clean sheet.

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