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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 14 Aug 20 2.05pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

I wondered if we should have used Speroni as a South America scout. Guess it's a moot point now.

What a terrific idea, a native speaker given South American scouting duties.

Nahh, too difficult for us to pull off something sensible like that. Bet he would have jumped at the chance too.

 

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View Canterbury Palace's Profile Canterbury Palace Flag Whitstable 14 Aug 20 2.17pm Send a Private Message to Canterbury Palace Add Canterbury Palace as a friend

I'm not being funny but it's easy to make it look as though one player is better than the other when you're openly altering their stats based on how difficult you perceive the leagues to be.

I don't know much about Leao, I'm sure he's great. The reality though is that Watkins scored once every 171 minutes this season, Leao scored once every 246. You might believe Serie A to be a far higher standard than the Championship but I would wager if you totted up the total Premier League signings from both divisions over the years, there would be a similar rate of success stories between the two.

As a closing point, to say 'and the price difference is just £8 million' shows a distinct lack of understanding about how Palace operate in the transfer market. If a few million quid here and there made no difference then we'd already have signed Eze.

 


We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold...

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 14 Aug 20 9.05pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

@CanterburyPalace


I have always counted goals or assists from the top 5 leagues as counting the same (even from the French league, even though it's poorer, it's more difficult to score in).

Then I multiply with 1.25 the minutes for goals scored in Portugal, Russia or Turkey and with 1.5 the minutes for goals scored in second tiers of the strong leagues, medium European leagues or national U21 level. It's pretty much thr same.

Sure, one could say that the Championship is above medium European leagues like the Scottish or Polish leagues, but this has only happened recently, with the investments of the last 2-3 years and the bringing of top players. Today, yes, one could argue that the Championship is at Portuguese level. The second tiers of Spain, Italy, Germany and France however have not had these investments and continue at pretty much the same level as a medium championship from Europe (Greece, Ukraine-post war, Austria, Switzerland, Czech Republic, Scotland, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Croatia, Serbia, Romania, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary, Israel)

I multiply with 2 the minutes from which one player scores in the Netherlands, cause there it's different, they score easier.


 

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View milaneagle's Profile milaneagle Flag Cheshunt 15 Aug 20 6.42am Send a Private Message to milaneagle Add milaneagle as a friend

Milan will never sell. They consider him a big investment for future with the club hoping he’s the new Ronaldo (Brazilian one).
Zlatan will play less next season and they are bringing in new wingers. Leao will get his chance then.
Nice idea. Will never happen.

Edited by milaneagle (15 Aug 2020 6.43am)

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 15 Aug 20 6.44am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

I knew differently. You're right that he's a great player, but apparently Milan doesn't have the patience. We'll see if he goes. If he does for just 25 million to a mid-table team, then I was right.

 

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View milaneagle's Profile milaneagle Flag Cheshunt 15 Aug 20 7.10am Send a Private Message to milaneagle Add milaneagle as a friend

With respect I think you’re wrong. Unless you have a direct contact with Milan? My cousins say the fans love him too and can see his huge potential and does Pioli too

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 15 Aug 20 7.58am Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by milaneagle

With respect I think you’re wrong. Unless you have a direct contact with Milan? My cousins say the fans love him too and can see his huge potential and does Pioli too

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Great player with huge potential. It does look to me that Milan will keep him. If he did come to the PL I would have thought it would be a top 4 team who would be prepared to spend big?

 

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View aashman12's Profile aashman12 Flag 15 Aug 20 9.05am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

Watkins isn't going for 18m

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 15 Aug 20 10.23am Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by aashman12

Watkins isn't going for 18m

Do you mean it's too little? From what I read it's the release clause. Now it's just a question of salary bidding. But his price will be 18 million. Brentford can't ask for more.

 

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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 15 Aug 20 8.15pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

Originally posted by milaneagle

Milan will never sell. They consider him a big investment for future with the club hoping he’s the new Ronaldo (Brazilian one).

Edited by milaneagle (15 Aug 2020 6.43am)

Have a look at these articles:

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Atletico Madrid offers 12 million for him and right back Santiago Arias,valued also at 12 million. I think AC Milan would prefer the 24 million alltogether than like this.


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Milan contemplating what to do with him- keep or sell.- from few days ago.

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Possibility of leaving or being used in a transaction with Fiorentina for Milenkovic- 6/10.


 

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View milaneagle's Profile milaneagle Flag Cheshunt 15 Aug 20 8.34pm Send a Private Message to milaneagle Add milaneagle as a friend

You’re using some seriously obscure websites to make a point here.
I can 100% guarantee we (Palace) will not buy him.
I can 80% guarantee he will not leave Milan. The only way he will leave is if we (Milan fan also) get a stupid offer for him.

 

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View Petereagle's Profile Petereagle Flag Brockley 15 Aug 20 10.44pm Send a Private Message to Petereagle Add Petereagle as a friend

Originally posted by milaneagle

You’re using some seriously obscure websites to make a point here.
I can 100% guarantee we (Palace) will not buy him.
I can 80% guarantee he will not leave Milan. The only way he will leave is if we (Milan fan also) get a stupid offer for him.

A stupid offer will certainly come from Palace. - £2m!

 

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