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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 20 7.32am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

I think with love and patience he'll get goals for us again if we sign him. At Chelsea he looks a bit lost and there's a lot of pressure on him. Hopefully it's permanent and not a loan though. If we could buy him and get Gallagher on loan things would really be looking up.

Agreed.

Talk of Chelsea offering Bats a new deal may just be a negotiating tactic.

 


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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 07 Sep 20 7.51am Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

I read that Chelsea were offering him a new deal so he couldnít leave on a free next year and were then looking to loan him out to put him in the shop window. No negotiating tactic, just good business.

 

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Originally posted by dp

I read that Chelsea were offering him a new deal so he couldnít leave on a free next year and were then looking to loan him out to put him in the shop window. No negotiating tactic, just good business.

Yup however Chelsea have just laid out £200m on players. If they could get £15-20m for Bats plus get his wages off their books that would also be a consideration.

Getting him to sign a new deal and then loan him out means his wages are covered but that will not help the club finances.

Anyway just speculation on my part.

 


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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag 07 Sep 20 8.58am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

I was thinking on this and if we did loan him I imagine Chelsea would demand a sizeable loan fee again, so that added to his 5 million in wages would probably equate to at least 10 million for one season and then he just goes home again. This does not really make financial sense to me given there is no potential return. Loaning a striker at a high cost in January when you're desperate is one thing, but doing it in the summer before a ball is kicked seems short-sighted. Signing Gallagher by contrast I would imagine would be a lower loan fee and much lower wages, so makes a bit more sense if Roy believes he can make an impact (plus allow more time for young midfielders to develop - we don't seem to have a young striker anywhere near ready for the first team?)

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 07 Sep 20 9.06am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Batsuayi must realize he has no future at Chelsea being as he is 4th choice striker after Werner, Giroud and Abraham. Why then should he agree to a new Chelsea contract just to strengthen their negotiating position? He will be 27 next month. This is the time for him to be getting a transfer out to another Prem team where he can expect to be first choice CF (i.e us).

If he refuses to agree an extension with Chelsea, his value to them will rapidly decline after this window.

I'm hoping that he refuses a contract extension and we can get him at a more realistic price (£10-15m). If he can agree to come for no more than his current Chelsea wages (rumoured to be £85k) then I believe we could afford that for one year with the contracts that are coming to an end next summer.

Batsuayi will still have hopes of playing for the national team at the Euros and the 2022 World Cup. He needs game time.

Edited by doombear (07 Sep 2020 10.00am)

 

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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Online Flag CR3 07 Sep 20 9.13am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Batsuayi must realize he has no future at Chelsea being as he is 4th choice striker after Werner, Giroud and Abraham. Why then should he agree to a new Chelsea contract just to strengthen their negotiating position? He will be 27 next month. This is the time for him to be getting a transfer out to another Prem team where he can expect to be first choice CF (i.e us).

If he refuses to agree an extension with Chelsea, his value to them will rapidly decline after this window.

I'm hoping that he refuses a contract extension and we can get him at a more realistic price (£10-15m). If he can agree to come for no more than his current Chelsea wages (rumoured to be £85k) then I believe we could afford that for one year with the contracts that are coming to an end next summer.

Batsuayi will still have hopes of playing for the national team at the Euro's and the 2022 World Cup. He needs game time.

He seems to be a player who prefers to sit on the bench for Chelsea rather than play regularly for another team and on that basis alone I donít really want him. Keen footballers want to be out on the pitch playing matches.

Edited by Eaglecoops (07 Sep 2020 9.14am)

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 07 Sep 20 10.16am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by doombear

Batsuayi must realize he has no future at Chelsea being as he is 4th choice striker after Werner, Giroud and Abraham. Why then should he agree to a new Chelsea contract just to strengthen their negotiating position? He will be 27 next month. This is the time for him to be getting a transfer out to another Prem team where he can expect to be first choice CF (i.e us).

If he refuses to agree an extension with Chelsea, his value to them will rapidly decline after this window.

I'm hoping that he refuses a contract extension and we can get him at a more realistic price (£10-15m). If he can agree to come for no more than his current Chelsea wages (rumoured to be £85k) then I believe we could afford that for one year with the contracts that are coming to an end next summer.

Batsuayi will still have hopes of playing for the national team at the Euros and the 2022 World Cup. He needs game time.

Edited by doombear (07 Sep 2020 10.00am)

Agreed.

This all depends on his attitude. If he is content to sit on the bench and play in the cup games then there is nothing more to say.

If he wants to have a decent career then now is the time for him to move. Signing a new contract with Chelsea will price him out of the market leaving a loan as his only option.

If he wants a move tell Chelsea he will run his contract down and hopefully they will sell at a fair price and he gets his wages at the new club.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Online Flag CR3 07 Sep 20 10.39am Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Agreed.

This all depends on his attitude. If he is content to sit on the bench and play in the cup games then there is nothing more to say.

If he wants to have a decent career then now is the time for him to move. Signing a new contract with Chelsea will price him out of the market leaving a loan as his only option.

If he wants a move tell Chelsea he will run his contract down and hopefully they will sell at a fair price and he gets his wages at the new club.

Yep, this is the crux of it.

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 07 Sep 20 11.34am Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

He seems to be a player who prefers to sit on the bench for Chelsea rather than play regularly for another team and on that basis alone I donít really want him. Keen footballers want to be out on the pitch playing matches.

Edited by Eaglecoops (07 Sep 2020 9.14am)

Not at all sure heíd ever make the bench and would be touch and go for inclusion in the 25 man squad

 

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View Eagleshavelanded's Profile Eagleshavelanded Flag Tooting 07 Sep 20 11.42am Send a Private Message to Eagleshavelanded Add Eagleshavelanded as a friend

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View dp's Profile dp Flag Tunbridge Wells 07 Sep 20 12.50pm Send a Private Message to dp Add dp as a friend

Originally posted by Badger11

Yup however Chelsea have just laid out £200m on players. If they could get £15-20m for Bats plus get his wages off their books that would also be a consideration.

Getting him to sign a new deal and then loan him out means his wages are covered but that will not help the club finances.

Anyway just speculation on my part.

I agree with you. I just don't think you can read too much into the new deal. I guess that Chelsea are trying to get him to sign a new deal so he can't walk away for free next year.

This means that any possible suitors who are waiting to sign him for free will be disappointed. So the new deal is not a sign that he is wanted at Chelsea, just good business.

 

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View Omph's Profile Omph Flag Liverpool 07 Sep 20 1.16pm Send a Private Message to Omph Add Omph as a friend

Or very bad business - see Fraser last season. Quite possible they'll lose any fee by trying to hike the fee now.

Originally posted by dp

I agree with you. I just don't think you can read too much into the new deal. I guess that Chelsea are trying to get him to sign a new deal so he can't walk away for free next year.

This means that any possible suitors who are waiting to sign him for free will be disappointed. So the new deal is not a sign that he is wanted at Chelsea, just good business.

 

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