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View BALDEAGLE!'s Profile BALDEAGLE! Flag Crystal palace 17 Aug 20 11.29am Send a Private Message to BALDEAGLE! Add BALDEAGLE! as a friend

Should we be adopting a new formation to help us play with a bit more attacking intent
Obviously new players would help but can Roy really change our formation with the players we have
It might even give Wilf a kick up the backside (if heís still here)

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 17 Aug 20 12.33pm Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

sorry to say that Roy is stuck in the way he likes his teams to play , so don't expect a different formation next season

 

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View *jack*'s Profile *jack* Flag Eastbourne 17 Aug 20 7.46pm Send a Private Message to *jack* Add *jack* as a friend

Unfortunately:
1. Historically Roy doesnt seem to like change, either to system or team.
2. What leads you to think we will sign enough/any new players to make a change possible?

 

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View Elpis's Profile Elpis Flag In a pub 19 Aug 20 10.25am Send a Private Message to Elpis Add Elpis as a friend

Its not the formation its the personnel that needs changing

 

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View Ian-VI's Profile Ian-VI Flag Vicenza 19 Aug 20 10.38am Send a Private Message to Ian-VI Add Ian-VI as a friend

Originally posted by *jack*

Unfortunately:
1. Historically Roy doesnt seem to like change, either to system or team.

Historically you just said something that is not true, as he changed tactics numerous times in the 3 years, every season adapting it to the team he had.
In 2018 he played 4-4-2 already [Link]
(although that's not entirely true either, as it was a 4-4-2 on paper, but RLC used to move towards the center making it more a 4-3-1-2)
But still, when he had the players to do it, he did.

 


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View Eaglecoops's Profile Eaglecoops Flag CR3 19 Aug 20 12.32pm Send a Private Message to Eaglecoops Add Eaglecoops as a friend

Originally posted by Ian-VI

Historically you just said something that is not true, as he changed tactics numerous times in the 3 years, every season adapting it to the team he had.
In 2018 he played 4-4-2 already [Link]
(although that's not entirely true either, as it was a 4-4-2 on paper, but RLC used to move towards the center making it more a 4-3-1-2)
But still, when he had the players to do it, he did.

You are right in that it is all about having the right players if you want to change formation. Our standard 4-3-3 that was mostly played last season becomes a 4-5-1 whenever we played anyone half decent and thinking about it quite a few times when we were not playing someone decent. It's a defensive set up however you look at it which is why I don't think Roy likes 4-4-2 that much.

 

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View richard shaw (og)65's Profile richard shaw (og)65 Flag my minds eye 19 Aug 20 6.45pm Send a Private Message to richard shaw (og)65 Add richard shaw (og)65 as a friend

Originally posted by Eaglecoops

You are right in that it is all about having the right players if you want to change formation. Our standard 4-3-3 that was mostly played last season becomes a 4-5-1 whenever we played anyone half decent and thinking about it quite a few times when we were not playing someone decent. It's a defensive set up however you look at it which is why I don't think Roy likes 4-4-2 that much.

Spot on , it always makes me laugh when i see the tv graphic put us as playing 4-3-3 , yeah when we are on the break , the usual set up is 4-5-1 , Roy is a pragmatist , most of our games we are there to nick a result . Boring, but it can be effective sometimes , it will take a big leap of faith and player and staff recruitment to change that .

 


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View samprior's Profile samprior Flag Hamburg 19 Aug 20 6.59pm Send a Private Message to samprior Add samprior as a friend

Roy played 442 when RLC was with us. Him drifting in from the left and Macca being an industrious right mid. Remember macca saying it was a new position for him but enjoyed it.

If and big if but if Eze was to come I could easily imagine the same could happen.

 

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View PatrickA's Profile PatrickA Flag London 19 Aug 20 7.42pm Send a Private Message to PatrickA Add PatrickA as a friend

The difficulty with 4-3-3 with Hodgson is that it often becomes 4-5-1 with the two wide players spending a lot of time in their own half.
This leaves the central striker very isolated and often devoid of service.
I canít see Hodgson pushing the two wide players further forward to play closer to the striker as Allardyce did on occasions.
Hodgson prefers a more compact system with a slow and methodical build up.
So yes I would prefer 4-4-2 where at least we give the opposition defenders more to think about.
If Benteke and Zaha were the two up front we have had success with that in the past.
It would probably mean no place for Ayew which may seem crazy as he won all the player of the year awards.
But itís about achieving the best balanced team and Ayew and Zaha would not work up front as a pair.
Anyway, when we buy 3 or 4 new exciting attacking players this window there will have to be another rethink on suitable tactics!!!

 

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View aashman12's Profile aashman12 Flag 20 Aug 20 7.57am Send a Private Message to aashman12 Add aashman12 as a friend

We finished the season playing 442, Schlupp wide left,

 

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