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View lefty27's Profile lefty27 Flag ipswich 21 Aug 20 11.26pm Send a Private Message to lefty27 Add lefty27 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

All meat in uk schools now is halal.
4m muslims and we adopt that process.
What a f***ing liberty.

My kids go to a c of e primary, the school dinners are definitely not halal meat and they even have pork sausages!

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 21 Aug 20 11.38pm Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by Mapletree

You see, the problem is how credulous the population of the uk is proving to be. Someone fed you halal meat. You need to change your diet

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Sorry what's your point?

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 20 11.45pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Sorry what's your point?

Itís not true and on this occasion Cryrst has been suckered by some old sh*t put out on the inter web.

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 21 Aug 20 11.51pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

At least ypu found your glasses

Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, you finally responded

So that is the only source of your knowledge?

Do you know the history of The Adam Smith Institute?

One of the four least transparent think tanks in the UK for funding. The prophet of private profit. A 'right wing think tank' which was much favoured by Margaret Thatcher.

I suggest you do some more research. Especially into Listeria deaths

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260 deaths in the US per annum, an average of 7 in the UK. The US has a population 5 times the size of the UK. You do the math...

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 21 Aug 20 11.53pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Someone rang the idiot dinner bell and like good Pavlovian puppy someone came running for his PAL

Originally posted by steeleye20

If he is representative of the average HK citizen, I totally sympathise with China.

There is no nerd like an HK nerd.

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 21 Aug 20 11.58pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Someone rang the idiot dinner bell and like good Pavlovian puppy someone came running for his PAL

You think we are pals? It is you that needs new glasses my friend. My only pal on here these days is Stirling and even he has unfriended me

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 22 Aug 20 12.01am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Noe you have your glasses now try using them to read.

The article I put a link to compared US to EU as it is EU regulations that stopped the import of US chlorine rinsed chickens until we leave the EU.

The point here was that the decision was to protect EU chicken production.

You go on about the UK numbers which may well be true, the Association you reference is a proper group working towards better quality food.

Looking at the numbers as whole, the UK likely has better processes than the rest of the EU.

Please evidence how many Listeria deaths in the USA you quote are due to ingestion of chlorine washed chicken.

The UK number should be zero.


Originally posted by Mapletree

Ah, you finally responded

So that is the only source of your knowledge?

Do you know the history of The Adam Smith Institute?

One of the four least transparent think tanks in the UK for funding. The prophet of private profit. A 'right wing think tank' which was much favoured by Margaret Thatcher.

I suggest you do some more research. Especially into Listeria deaths

[Link]

260 deaths in the US per annum, an average of 7 in the UK. The US has a population 5 times the size of the UK. You do the math...

Edited by HKOwen (22 Aug 2020 12.02am)

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 22 Aug 20 12.03am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

My reference was to another poster and a brand of dog food.

Originally posted by Mapletree

You think we are pals? It is you that needs new glasses my friend. My only pal on here these days is Stirling and even he has unfriended me

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 22 Aug 20 12.42am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Noe you have your glasses now try using them to read.

The article I put a link to compared US to EU as it is EU regulations that stopped the import of US chlorine rinsed chickens until we leave the EU.

The point here was that the decision was to protect EU chicken production.

You go on about the UK numbers which may well be true, the Association you reference is a proper group working towards better quality food.

Looking at the numbers as whole, the UK likely has better processes than the rest of the EU.

Please evidence how many Listeria deaths in the USA you quote are due to ingestion of chlorine washed chicken.

The UK number should be zero.

Edited by HKOwen (22 Aug 2020 12.02am)

But the point is WE are going to have to accept US meat and not the EU. So letís make the correct comparison shall we.

The US cannot provide the information you crave. Itís ability to track the provenance of food is not up to ours.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 22 Aug 20 12.44am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

My reference was to another poster and a brand of dog food.

I thought you implied I rang the bell. Perhaps my glasses encourage me to read too much into some posts

 

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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 22 Aug 20 12.56am Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Just reading would be ok for now.

This thread is rather going in circles now so my final comments are

We cannot be forced to buy and consume anything whether it be US poultry or anything else.

The provenance trail in the UK is very good for UK produced meat. The point I made is that the Listeria numbers you quote are not linked to chicken consumption. As a general point on the number of cases relevant but in a discussion on chicken not really relevant.

Anyway, that's all from me on this you will be pleased to know.


Originally posted by Mapletree

I thought you implied I rang the bell. Perhaps my glasses encourage me to read too much into some posts

Edited by HKOwen (22 Aug 2020 12.57am)

Edited by HKOwen (22 Aug 2020 12.58am)

 


Let's see SP and the board trying to line up for a piss in the AW toilets at half time before peddling the new stand. We're the Arthur over here and the facilities are a disgrace

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 22 Aug 20 1.05am Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Just reading would be ok for now.

This thread is rather going in circles now so my final comments are

We cannot be forced to buy and consume anything whether it be US poultry or anything else.

The provenance trail in the UK is very good for UK produced meat. The point I made is that the Listeria numbers you quote are not linked to chicken consumption. As a general point on the number of cases relevant but in a discussion on chicken not really relevant.

Anyway, that's all from me on this you will be pleased to know.


Edited by HKOwen (22 Aug 2020 12.57am)

Edited by HKOwen (22 Aug 2020 12.58am)

We can and will be forced to allow the importation of cheap, low quality meat, especially if we are on WTO terms. In the end people will buy it as it is cheap. It will become the standard in cooked foods very quickly. And ultimately it will become monopolistic and our choice will be gone, save for increasingly expensive specialist suppliers who have lost economies of scale. Brexiteers purport to be anti globalisation in many cases, yet will make us increasingly dependent on untrustworthy producers goodness knows where.

 

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