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View the.universal's Profile the.universal 21 Aug 20 9.16pm Send a Private Message to the.universal Add the.universal as a friend

Not talking 4-5-1 but rather Ďthe systemí (hereafter TS) Lots of people on message boards moan about TS. In general I have some sympathy in that the current system is without doubt unequal. Equally I donít have too much time for moaners because moaning isnít going to solve your problems.

Walking around town it struck me that Covid has taken a bit off froth off TS. Some formerly highly paid people who werenít delivering particularly much in their senior jobs are now looking for work. People arenít bollocking on about their 5 star holidays or spunking £50k on a wedding.

However, discretionary spend sectors like travel, hospitality and the arts are taking a shoeing, with losses of jobs for hundreds of thousands.

Is this a necessary desirable adjustment, or will it result in hardship for many in younger generations? Will we emerge from this crisis leaner, fitter and hungrier to push forward or will it have a negative impact and damage self esteeem/confidence for many people?

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 24 Aug 20 3.40pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

We are fcuked, the younger generation have got a hard life ahead, except for the old school tie brigade, they will always be ahead of the game, but for the majority they can plan a life living with mum and dad, not a bad thing to be fair! The having everything on credit stuff will go , as they wont be able to afford the charge, new car changing every few years will have to go to, lots are just leased already, train/ bus/taxi companies are going to suffer, people working from home is so very convenient, my advice would be to spend nothing unless you have to, keep the old motor, just spend on essentials like birds, booze and the odd kebab or curry, its a race to the bottom from now on in, but we have democracy peoples so no moaning!

 

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Originally posted by the.universal

Not talking 4-5-1 but rather Ďthe systemí (hereafter TS) Lots of people on message boards moan about TS. In general I have some sympathy in that the current system is without doubt unequal. Equally I donít have too much time for moaners because moaning isnít going to solve your problems.

Walking around town it struck me that Covid has taken a bit off froth off TS. Some formerly highly paid people who werenít delivering particularly much in their senior jobs are now looking for work. People arenít bollocking on about their 5 star holidays or spunking £50k on a wedding.

However, discretionary spend sectors like travel, hospitality and the arts are taking a shoeing, with losses of jobs for hundreds of thousands.

Is this a necessary desirable adjustment, or will it result in hardship for many in younger generations? Will we emerge from this crisis leaner, fitter and hungrier to push forward or will it have a negative impact and damage self esteeem/confidence for many people?


Donít play the victim
Get on with people
Work hard
Work smart
Invest a percentage of your earnings into appreciating assets
Never buy a new/flash car
Get on the property market ASAP
Avoid hookers/drugs/too much drink

Do the above and you will be fine, regardless of the system.

I did everything except the last one.

 


"It feels much better than it ever did, much more sensitive." John Wayne Bobbit

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Can't beat it.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 24 Aug 20 10.20pm Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

We are fcuked, the younger generation have got a hard life ahead, except for the old school tie brigade, they will always be ahead of the game, but for the majority they can plan a life living with mum and dad, not a bad thing to be fair! The having everything on credit stuff will go , as they wont be able to afford the charge, new car changing every few years will have to go to, lots are just leased already, train/ bus/taxi companies are going to suffer, people working from home is so very convenient, my advice would be to spend nothing unless you have to, keep the old motor, just spend on essentials like birds, booze and the odd kebab or curry, its a race to the bottom from now on in, but we have democracy peoples so no moaning!

You dont actually know how hard some of us had it ourselves. The mental illness, sympathy,help services and all that old bollox wasnt there for me or my friends. The only struggle might be financial for a while. That would have been ideal for me but other s*** with no protection was out there.
I'm glad you had a walk in the park, I wish I did.

 

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View Mapletree's Profile Mapletree Flag Croydon 24 Aug 20 10.59pm Send a Private Message to Mapletree Add Mapletree as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You dont actually know how hard some of us had it ourselves. The mental illness, sympathy,help services and all that old bollox wasnt there for me or my friends. The only struggle might be financial for a while. That would have been ideal for me but other s*** with no protection was out there.
I'm glad you had a walk in the park, I wish I did.

Well, if suicide rates are any measure things have stayed much the same since 1861.

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 24 Aug 20 11.47pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

You dont actually know how hard some of us had it ourselves. The mental illness, sympathy,help services and all that old bollox wasnt there for me or my friends. The only struggle might be financial for a while. That would have been ideal for me but other s*** with no protection was out there.
I'm glad you had a walk in the park, I wish I did.

No idea what you mean mate, just saying i think the younger generation are going to have it hard , buying a place for example, sorry to hear you had it hard , but i didn"t say i had it easy did i? Can"t understand if you had mental illness why you think the help is "all that bollox "though , i would welcome it!

 

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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 24 Aug 20 11.52pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Donít play the victim
Get on with people
Work hard
Work smart
Invest a percentage of your earnings into appreciating assets
Never buy a new/flash car
Get on the property market ASAP
Avoid hookers/drugs/too much drink

Do the above and you will be fine, regardless of the system.

I did everything except the last one.


Got to agree about the new flash car, biggest waste of money known to man, alright if you got cash to burn but i would still rather burn it on the last line!

 

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View BlueJay's Profile BlueJay Flag UK 25 Aug 20 12.25am Send a Private Message to BlueJay Add BlueJay as a friend

Originally posted by Tom-the-eagle


Donít play the victim
Get on with people
Work hard
Work smart
Invest a percentage of your earnings into appreciating assets
Never buy a new/flash car
Get on the property market ASAP
Avoid hookers/drugs/too much drink

Do the above and you will be fine, regardless of the system.

I did everything except the last one.

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And I concur about getting on with people. That is the real stuff. Sadly eroding away during these 'pick your reality' days of social networks and its resulting laughably fringe outlooks.


Edited by BlueJay (25 Aug 2020 12.36am)

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Online Flag Chatham 25 Aug 20 5.20am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by croydon proud

No idea what you mean mate, just saying i think the younger generation are going to have it hard , buying a place for example, sorry to hear you had it hard , but i didn"t say i had it easy did i? Can"t understand if you had mental illness why you think the help is "all that bollox "though , i would welcome it!

Yes that wasnt really the best way to put it.
I didnt but many did and you went to the quack and he gave you some tablets. Not much sympathy for everyday issues is what was meant. All I'm saying is that youngsters nowadays have a lot of it on a plate. It wont help any of them to continually tell them they're the victim. You didnt have it easy so your struggles were on a par with today's kids. I'm sure the help you needed back then was not even close to what's about nowadays and you and I got through it.
Owning property is nice but not essential to survive. We appear to be putting that way up there as a no 1 priority. Living is the priority. Making the best of what you have.

 

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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 25 Aug 20 7.44am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Apart from a brief period in the eighties and nineties it was always hard getting on the property ladder. What is happening today is more like going back to the fifties and sixties.

I'm not saying it's a good thing but hopefully young people will learn how to save for what they want rather than instant gratification.

I'm more concerned about the fall out from the virus on jobs and the devastation that new technology is going to do on jobs and careers.

When I was growing up my mum rammed it into my head get a job in a bank it's a good career and you will get a cheap mortgage. All of which turned out to be true.

However if I was an 18yo today my concern is what if I pick the wrong career. They could end up wasting a lot of time and effort on job qualifications only to find that 5-10 years from now it's all automated.

The one growth area I have noticed is in Home Improvements. I would tell any youngster if you don't like working in an office become a "handyman".

Back in the sixties most blokes worked with their hands and so could also do a bit of painting and decorating maybe even put up shelves and basic plumbing.

Today those skills sets are in short supply I would rather pay a little man than do the job badly myself. This is one area where young people should explore I don't see it changing anytime soon.

Edited by Badger11 (25 Aug 2020 7.46am)

 


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View croydon proud's Profile croydon proud Flag croydon 25 Aug 20 3.10pm Send a Private Message to croydon proud Add croydon proud as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Yes that wasnt really the best way to put it.
I didnt but many did and you went to the quack and he gave you some tablets. Not much sympathy for everyday issues is what was meant. All I'm saying is that youngsters nowadays have a lot of it on a plate. It wont help any of them to continually tell them they're the victim. You didnt have it easy so your struggles were on a par with today's kids. I'm sure the help you needed back then was not even close to what's about nowadays and you and I got through it.
Owning property is nice but not essential to survive. We appear to be putting that way up there as a no 1 priority. Living is the priority. Making the best of what you have.

Have to agree the kids have it a lot easier than we did, even if they do buy a place it is mostly ready to live in, no stripping walls and replacing old rotten skirting, they think borrowing as much as they can is the way forward, and also the importance placed in owning, is overblown, if you get a good deal renting thats just as good, in Germany they all rent and spend half the year in Gran Canaria on the beach!

 

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