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View RyWa's Profile RyWa Flag Beckenham 14 Oct 20 10.30am Send a Private Message to RyWa Add RyWa as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

Bat's best finisher in our team ?
Hasn't played yet so how can you tell ?

Because he was here the season before last and had 1 in 2 goal to game ratio

 

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View Fatherken's Profile Fatherken Flag 14 Oct 20 11.01am Send a Private Message to Fatherken Add Fatherken as a friend

on loan trying to impress . Big Ben scored loads when he first came , we need to see what Bat's is like second time around , now under contract for the rest of the season .

 

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View Come to Daddy's Profile Come to Daddy Flag 14 Oct 20 11.22am Send a Private Message to Come to Daddy Add Come to Daddy as a friend

Originally posted by Fatherken

on loan trying to impress . Big Ben scored loads when he first came , we need to see what Bat's is like second time around , now under contract for the rest of the season .

Batshuayi has had that sort of ratio throughout his career, certainly when his Chelsea games are looked at on a per 90 min basis. Other than that he has scored at round that rate or better for Marseille, Dortmund, Belgium and us.

Worth bearing in mind that the competition to be best finisher in our team isn't the hardest there is

Also, he has pretty similar motivation to impress this time. If not us, then someone; he's basically on loan to secure the best move from Chelsea he can get.

Here's hoping...

 

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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Sutton Coldfield 14 Oct 20 12.53pm Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

Originally posted by taylors lovechild

Having never seen Ferguson, I don't feel I can pick him, therefore I'd go with this. I think Luka is best when he has a good passer alongside him, like when Cabaye was with us. As such, I think it's important we get Jairo into the team. I keep bleating on about it, but he looked class in preseason and I felt so sorry for him that he got injured just prior to the season's kick off. He also looks forward when passing, rather than constantly going sideways or backwards.

VG

Ward Tomkins Cahill PvA

Jairo Luka

Townsend Eze
Wilf

Bats

I know Eze's preferred position is in the middle, but I think he and Wilf can learn to switch during games. When he signed he said he was told he'd be playing on the left with the freedom to come inside, so this is not a surprise where he is playing. Eventually he may well end up more central but he's a young player with plenty of time to learn. Once PvA is back I think that will make a big difference, as Tyrick is nowhere near as adventurous.

I'm torn with Ayew. He works harder than anyone, but he oftentimes is missing from the 18-yard box at vital times. Playing alongside Zaha I think they are too similar and sometimes seem to get in each other's way. If we persist with 442 then I think either Roy has to bring Bats or Tekkers in for Ayew, or he needs to move Wilf to the wing, possibly for Andros. At least with Eze and Bats in the squad we actually have real options this season, which the same could not be said of last season.



A thoughtful post TL. I agree with much of what you say. However, I think Mitchell does look to go forward when he can and does deliver good crosses, so whilst I agree PvA probably provides more of a threat, young Mitchell is not far behind and seems to be learning quickly.
I'm not sure that Tomkins and Cahill together will work as well as it did last year. Also, I'm not sure they will both be able to last the season. Whilst they may be the best two CBs, I'd be inclined to play one of them alongside Kouyate and perhaps alternate them or have one as a substitute coming on after say 60 mins.
Batshuayi has to play. After all, his loan is (apparently) with an option to buy (for £20m?). No point loaning him if we aren't going to use him, to find out if we really want to buy him. He is after all a proper goal poacher and that's what we need -someone who'll get in and around that 6 yard box. Unfortunately, that means one of Ayew or Townsend has to lose out and at present, I'd put Ayew on the sub's bench.
I agree that both Riederwald and Eze should be in there.

Finally, we have to work on the basis of current form and performances and not on what players were doing 2 or more years ago, so as much as I love McArthur, he's on the bench for me, and as for Sakho, not even that!

 

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View Zaha127's Profile Zaha127 Flag 18 Oct 20 3.08am Send a Private Message to Zaha127 Add Zaha127 as a friend

GUAITA

MITCHELL TOMKINS CAHILL WARD


KOUYATE MCCARTHY


ZAHA AYEW EZE


MICHY

AYEW and MICHY can play together. AYEW can play many positions including CAM and on the wings when needed. Kouyate and Mccarthy would offer good stability.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 18 Oct 20 7.26am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by doombear


A thoughtful post TL. I agree with much of what you say. However, I think Mitchell does look to go forward when he can and does deliver good crosses, so whilst I agree PvA probably provides more of a threat, young Mitchell is not far behind and seems to be learning quickly.
I'm not sure that Tomkins and Cahill together will work as well as it did last year. Also, I'm not sure they will both be able to last the season. Whilst they may be the best two CBs, I'd be inclined to play one of them alongside Kouyate and perhaps alternate them or have one as a substitute coming on after say 60 mins.
Batshuayi has to play. After all, his loan is (apparently) with an option to buy (for £20m?). No point loaning him if we aren't going to use him, to find out if we really want to buy him. He is after all a proper goal poacher and that's what we need -someone who'll get in and around that 6 yard box. Unfortunately, that means one of Ayew or Townsend has to lose out and at present, I'd put Ayew on the sub's bench.
I agree that both Riederwald and Eze should be in there.

Finally, we have to work on the basis of current form and performances and not on what players were doing 2 or more years ago, so as much as I love McArthur, he's on the bench for me, and as for Sakho, not even that!

Mitchell has a fine future to look forward to I'm sure. He does play a little better if he knows hes got protection on his position allowing him to roam up and down. Schlupp gives this and helps him verbally when on the pitch as well. You cannot buy individual experience to coin a phrase.

 

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View Sansbup's Profile Sansbup Flag Normandy 18 Oct 20 9.09am Send a Private Message to Sansbup Add Sansbup as a friend

I canít believe that Jimmy McArthur isnít being included? Mr Reliable, end to end and the odd goal....

 

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