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View HKOwen's Profile HKOwen Flag Hong Kong 05 Oct 20 10.24pm Send a Private Message to HKOwen Add HKOwen as a friend

Would you rather we had bought Watkins thank loaned Bats?

Watkins is clearly good enough for PL

 


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View Palace 1979's Profile Palace 1979 Flag Surrey 05 Oct 20 10.31pm Send a Private Message to Palace 1979 Add Palace 1979 as a friend

And £28m more expensive with an unproven record.

He was very good last night and could be a gem, but we got Eze, Bats and Ferguson for less...

 


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View mattteo's Profile mattteo Flag 05 Oct 20 10.32pm Send a Private Message to mattteo Add mattteo as a friend

One could be brought on loan, for the other you'd have tp cough 25 million without the certainty that he could have made it. It appears now , after the Liverpool game, that he IS good enough for the money. But he was just a Championship center forward who had only played 1 full season as center forward, previously having been used as a winger.

On the other hand, Batshuayi was a certainty at international level, having played well for all Belgium, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea and us. And if he doesn't accustom well this year, you can even chise not to pay the money.

So, the Batshuayi deal seems the better one.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Flag Kent 05 Oct 20 10.51pm Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

One could be brought on loan, for the other you'd have tp cough 25 million without the certainty that he could have made it. It appears now , after the Liverpool game, that he IS good enough for the money. But he was just a Championship center forward who had only played 1 full season as center forward, previously having been used as a winger.

On the other hand, Batshuayi was a certainty at international level, having played well for all Belgium, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea and us. And if he doesn't accustom well this year, you can even chise not to pay the money.

So, the Batshuayi deal seems the better one.

Iím actually inclined to agree here.

But knee jerk to start assuming Watkins is the next R9 after one performance and could still go one way or the other for me. I wish him luck though and canít help but still admit a bit of jealousy. Equally, thereís every chance Bats could have a terrible season. Be interesting to see anyhow

 


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View Painter's Profile Painter Flag Croydon 05 Oct 20 11.10pm Send a Private Message to Painter Add Painter as a friend

Originally posted by mattteo

One could be brought on loan, for the other you'd have tp cough 25 million without the certainty that he could have made it. It appears now , after the Liverpool game, that he IS good enough for the money. But he was just a Championship center forward who had only played 1 full season as center forward, previously having been used as a winger.

On the other hand, Batshuayi was a certainty at international level, having played well for all Belgium, Borussia Dortmund, Chelsea and us. And if he doesn't accustom well this year, you can even chise not to pay the money.

So, the Batshuayi deal seems the better one.

Also Watkins was never going to come here. Dean Smith helped develop him at Brentford, so believes in him, so obviously he is going to go to Villa.

 

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View NEILLO's Profile NEILLO Flag Shoreham-by-Sea 05 Oct 20 11.16pm Send a Private Message to NEILLO Add NEILLO as a friend

Originally posted by HKOwen

Would you rather we had bought Watkins thank loaned Bats?

Watkins is clearly good enough for PL

Ultimately it doesn't matter who we would prefer, it's about who we could afford.

Watkins or Eze is a more relevant question as we couldn't fund both.

 


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View Jamesrichards8's Profile Jamesrichards8 Flag 06 Oct 20 1.03am Send a Private Message to Jamesrichards8 Add Jamesrichards8 as a friend

Looked at prospectively, we made the wise choice. Retrospectively, we could have been a bit more adventurous and gone for Watkins, but you can't say it's a proven fact at this point--he could finish the season with 3 goals.

Edited by Jamesrichards8 (06 Oct 2020 1.03am)

 


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View Casual's Profile Casual Flag Orpington 06 Oct 20 6.44am Send a Private Message to Casual Add Casual as a friend

Based o the few games this season , Bamford looks decent, where as our experience of him is that he is f*cking awful. Pukki started last season with a flying start, then went to s*it,

Watkins had one decent season in an attacking championship side and was an unknown quantity for defenders, as it was his first as a striker.

Iím not a particular fan of Batshuayi, he doesnít work hard enough or even jump for headers to play in a system like ours. If you donít score bundles at Chelsea with the quality balls that they can provide I struggle to see how he will be a success with us. I think the Bournemouth goals on the last day for us, improved his stats for us last time.
Iíd be happy if Batshuayi reached the same number of goals as ayew did last year, although I doubt he will add as much to the all round play as Ayew did.

Will have to wait and see. Wouldnít be surprised if both do ok or sink without trace.

 

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View EddieMac's Profile EddieMac Flag 06 Oct 20 7.33am Send a Private Message to EddieMac Add EddieMac as a friend

We never bid for Watkins and never had a chance to sign him so it makes no odds really to think what might have been.

 

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View Vincehair's Profile Vincehair Flag London 06 Oct 20 8.42am Send a Private Message to Vincehair Add Vincehair as a friend

Originally posted by Painter

Also Watkins was never going to come here. Dean Smith helped develop him at Brentford, so believes in him, so obviously he is going to go to Villa.

You are right there. We went to Villa near the end of last season and didn't put in a show. If we had beaten them and they went down then it's more of a possibility we could have signed him. I think the club were alerted to him by Clinton Morrison who played with him at Exeter. He is an intelligent technical player who is going to be a major premier league player. Villa are going to a top half team and above this season

 

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View KAOS's Profile KAOS Flag In a tree 06 Oct 20 8.56am Send a Private Message to KAOS Add KAOS as a friend

It's all very well spending 28 million on a striker but he has to be given regular chances ... and that's an area we fail in miserably over a season. We'll never score 7 in this league in a game as long as we're in it, let alone against a top 4 side. On this basis, Bats is a better deal for us ...

 

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View taylors lovechild's Profile taylors lovechild Flag People's Republic of Gozo 06 Oct 20 9.12am Send a Private Message to taylors lovechild Add taylors lovechild as a friend

I think Bats and Zaha might actually work together. I don't personally think Ayew and Zaha does. That might change, but at the moment there doesn't seem to be any chemistry and they don't seem to be able to read each other's game. I do think it is because they are both wingers playing as forwards. The first game I saw Watkins in the PL he looked a bit lost and were it not for his pace I wouldn't have said he looked worth the money. And then he scored three past Liverpool. So much with strikers seems to be about confidence to the point that even Bamford can look like a footballer.

 

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