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French teacher beheaded in Islamic terror attack.

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View stayloa's Profile stayloa Flag Beckenham 18 Oct 20 6.27am Send a Private Message to stayloa Add stayloa as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Up until the internet became the worlds police I could point you to the evidence. I suggest go with it and probably not because of bombings and invasions but because of a dopey book written 1500 years ago by some made up super man which states by killing non believers you get 73 virgins in the after life.
What a total load of bollox.
I am pretty aggrieved at having a target on my back for being western and a non believer for what that's worth.
I will also add that 3 women are equal to 1 man according to that dopey book. Very up to date I'm sure.

Don't get me wrong, I'm an atheist and think all religious texts are bonkers personally, at least the parts that advocate violence or believing in an imaginary being. The bible also preaches hate towards non believers so they're all as bad as each other.

The fact is that most Muslims are nice law abiding people as are most people from other religions and they do not support these hate crimes. 1.8 billion Muslims - if they were all going around killing non believers we wouldn't be here now.

The ones that do are insane. Its the governments that caused this mess they should be aggrieved with, in the same way that we should be aggrieved with the nutters and not the remaining 99% of the Muslim faith. But again, the violent ones are insane and so try telling them that!

I bet these"far right" fans are still happy to cheer on the "suicide bombing" Muslim players we have aren't they...! Hypocrisy at its finest.

The Muslims that have come here have done so because they wanted a better life, having had their home lands and normal way of life destroyed by the west in the past either through colonialism or war over oil.


 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 18 Oct 20 8.00am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by stayloa

Don't get me wrong, I'm an atheist and think all religious texts are bonkers personally, at least the parts that advocate violence or believing in an imaginary being. The bible also preaches hate towards non believers so they're all as bad as each other.

The fact is that most Muslims are nice law abiding people as are most people from other religions and they do not support these hate crimes. 1.8 billion Muslims - if they were all going around killing non believers we wouldn't be here now.

The ones that do are insane. Its the governments that caused this mess they should be aggrieved with, in the same way that we should be aggrieved with the nutters and not the remaining 99% of the Muslim faith. But again, the violent ones are insane and so try telling them that!

I bet these"far right" fans are still happy to cheer on the "suicide bombing" Muslim players we have aren't they...! Hypocrisy at its finest.

The Muslims that have come here have done so because they wanted a better life, having had their home lands and normal way of life destroyed by the west in the past either through colonialism or war over oil.


Are you not worried about the amount of muslims that sympathise with these murders?
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I am. We have given a home to people who hate our fundamental principles and it's nieve people like you who live in a bubble and can't see the troubles ahead.

 

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View cryrst's Profile cryrst Flag Chatham 18 Oct 20 8.47am Send a Private Message to cryrst Add cryrst as a friend

Originally posted by dannyboy1978

Are you not worried about the amount of muslims that sympathise with these murders?
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I am. We have given a home to people who hate our fundamental principles and it's nieve people like you who live in a bubble and can't see the troubles ahead.

Think that's about a quarter dan.
That's my evidence I beleive

 

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View dannyboy1978's Profile dannyboy1978 Flag 18 Oct 20 9.01am Send a Private Message to dannyboy1978 Add dannyboy1978 as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Think that's about a quarter dan.
That's my evidence I beleive

Good maths lol.
And what is a quarter of 1.8 billion ?

 

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View stayloa's Profile stayloa Flag Beckenham 18 Oct 20 9.11am Send a Private Message to stayloa Add stayloa as a friend

Originally posted by cryrst

Think that's about a quarter dan.
That's my evidence I beleive

Cherry picking...

"At the same time, the polling shows a high degree of loyalty to Britain, with 95 per cent saying they feel loyal, and 93 per cent saying British laws should always be obeyed."

The fact they disagree with images of the prophet and thus understand the motives doesn't mean they're coming to blow you up. I guarantee they couldn't give a flying monkeys about you!

I'm also not hiding from the fact that the vast majority of terror attacks have been conducted by Muslims in the past decade or so in the UK. I'm just saying that lazy statements about the entire Muslim faith don't help address the real issues and further divide our already fractured society.

The poor keep getting poorer and they blame the Muslims, not the right wing government who are looking after themselves yet getting voted in time and again by the very people they're fleecing.

 

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 18 Oct 20 11.32am Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by stayloa


The Muslims that have come here have done so because they wanted a better life, having had their home lands and normal way of life destroyed by the west in the past either through colonialism or war over oil.

Lets go with this and follow it through. Essentially this arguement is that because the West have acted so badly with regards to lands with Muslim majorities, you think it is only fair that they then move to the West in search of a better life?

How far should we in the West then go to accomadate these 'better lives'? For example should the West bring in new blasphemny laws that ensure Muslim sensibilities are not offended? For example banning what this teacher did in this lesson?

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 18 Oct 20 11.38am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by stayloa

Cherry picking...

"At the same time, the polling shows a high degree of loyalty to Britain, with 95 per cent saying they feel loyal, and 93 per cent saying British laws should always be obeyed."

The fact they disagree with images of the prophet and thus understand the motives doesn't mean they're coming to blow you up. I guarantee they couldn't give a flying monkeys about you!

I'm also not hiding from the fact that the vast majority of terror attacks have been conducted by Muslims in the past decade or so in the UK. I'm just saying that lazy statements about the entire Muslim faith don't help address the real issues and further divide our already fractured society.

The poor keep getting poorer and they blame the Muslims, not the right wing government who are looking after themselves yet getting voted in time and again by the very people they're fleecing.

So what you are saying is that we should just smile when people get regularly beheaded and sliced up by Islamist nutcase immigrants because most Muslims are really nice people.

Your claims about us destroying their countries is baloney. Did we destroy pakistan or assist in its formation? Did we destroy Morocco? Did we destroy Iran or try to make it a modern country with a growing economy?
Do all countries not look after their own interests first?
Attacks on the West were going on long before the Gulf wars and we have defended Islamic countries from their enemies as much as we have opposed them.

You sir are an apologist for murderers and those who would deny us freedom of speech in our own countries.

I say that anyone who doesn't wish to play by our rules should go back to where they came from immediately.

 

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View serial thriller's Profile serial thriller Flag The Promised Land 18 Oct 20 11.54am Send a Private Message to serial thriller Add serial thriller as a friend

Originally posted by Matov

Lets go with this and follow it through. Essentially this arguement is that because the West have acted so badly with regards to lands with Muslim majorities, you think it is only fair that they then move to the West in search of a better life?

How far should we in the West then go to accomadate these 'better lives'? For example should the West bring in new blasphemny laws that ensure Muslim sensibilities are not offended? For example banning what this teacher did in this lesson?

It's not a trade off. It's the reality of human history.

Human beings are migratory animals. It is possibly one of our greatest adaptations: only really bacteria in terms of living organisms inhabit every single ecosystem on the planet. We have spread from the basin of Africa to every single corner of the world, and have often done so multiple times.

You either deal with it, or you end up with thousands of people taking the journey illegally, who you have no idea about in terms of character, who are potentially unhinged. We choose not to deal with it, and thus get the rotten end of the stick.

 


If punk ever happened I'd be preaching the law, instead of listenin to Lydon lecture BBC4

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View Matov's Profile Matov Flag 18 Oct 20 12.36pm Send a Private Message to Matov Add Matov as a friend

Originally posted by serial thriller

It's not a trade off. It's the reality of human history.

Human beings are migratory animals. It is possibly one of our greatest adaptations: only really bacteria in terms of living organisms inhabit every single ecosystem on the planet. We have spread from the basin of Africa to every single corner of the world, and have often done so multiple times.

You either deal with it, or you end up with thousands of people taking the journey illegally, who you have no idea about in terms of character, who are potentially unhinged. We choose not to deal with it, and thus get the rotten end of the stick.

Fine. Lets go with your hypothosis. Lets accept it as fact that mass migration is just part of the human experience.

In the West we used to have laws against all kinds of things that are now perfectly legal. But lets just stick with the subject matter in hand. Islamic beliefs make it very clear that any depiction of their Prophet is a huge no-no. Should we in the West be looking therefore to enshrine this in our legal system? Effectively bring in a blasphemy law that protects this belief? Because surely if a mass movement of Muslims to the West is just part of how it all rolls, then it must follow that our laws should change to accomadate them?

 

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 18 Oct 20 12.38pm Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

This isn't a political issue of right v left. Some religious maniac has murdered a teacher. Shooting the murderer dead was too good for him.
Islamic State has manipulated religion (for the fragile-minded) into a terrorist group, that ultimately makes shed-loads of money for the people at the top. At the misery of non-Muslims.
And the real irony is that the #Muslims moved to a Christian country to better their lives.
I suggest they are exported back to where they came from.

 


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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 18 Oct 20 1.57pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

Originally posted by stayloa

Don't get me wrong, I'm an atheist and think all religious texts are bonkers personally, at least the parts that advocate violence or believing in an imaginary being. The bible also preaches hate towards non believers so they're all as bad as each other.

The fact is that most Muslims are nice law abiding people as are most people from other religions and they do not support these hate crimes. 1.8 billion Muslims - if they were all going around killing non believers we wouldn't be here now.

The ones that do are insane. Its the governments that caused this mess they should be aggrieved with, in the same way that we should be aggrieved with the nutters and not the remaining 99% of the Muslim faith. But again, the violent ones are insane and so try telling them that!

I bet these"far right" fans are still happy to cheer on the "suicide bombing" Muslim players we have aren't they...! Hypocrisy at its finest.

The Muslims that have come here have done so because they wanted a better life, having had their home lands and normal way of life destroyed by the west in the past either through colonialism or war over oil.


Many muslims are not violent , and so it is all ok ? Many German's were not violent during the 1930's....but there was a toxic ideology afoot. Sounds familiar ? The violent few are a problem, the toxic ideology cannot be allowed.

Ban the Koran for being Hate speech and illegal incitement to violence/murder.

Edited by PalazioVecchio (18 Oct 2020 1.57pm)

 


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View Far away fan's Profile Far away fan Flag On the border of jungle 18 Oct 20 4.17pm Send a Private Message to Far away fan Add Far away fan as a friend

Just think it would have been better to have people who do immigration in a legal way, I'm not in UK, but can have so many illegals coming in and not expecting this to happen more, will happen again sadly old Europe is finished.

 

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