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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Nov 20 9.27am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What have they done that's good then?

What does 'good' mean?

They have had to handle the Brexit transition and deal with a pandemic. What other government in living memory has had to do something like that?

They are doing just fine. Meanwhile the lefty loons whine like little bitches from the sidelines. That is all they can do.

 

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View Willo's Profile Willo Flag South coast - west of Brighton. 12 Nov 20 9.30am Send a Private Message to Willo Add Willo as a friend

This is my final contribution on this thread.

I refuse to respond to the visceral anti-Conservative tirade as I have no desire to provide it with the "Oxygen of publicity", a phrase coined by the late,great Margaret Thatcher.I don't wish to dignify such comments with a response.

Goodbye.

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Nov 20 9.31am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

What does 'good' mean?

They have had to handle the Brexit transition and deal with a pandemic. What other government in living memory has had to do something like that?

They are doing just fine. Meanwhile the lefty loons whine like little bitches from the sidelines. That is all they can do.

What can you point to that they have done so far that you can say has been successful?

The Brexit transition is a mess of their own making and that bed they soiled themselves is still not clean 4 years later.

I am not sure there are many parts of their handling of the pandemic you can point to and say they have handled well.

Still, if this is 'fine' for you I dread to think what 'bad' looks like.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Nov 20 9.32am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Willo

This is my final contribution on this thread.

I refuse to respond to the visceral anti-Conservative tirade as I have no desire to provide it with the "Oxygen of publicity", a phrase coined by the late,great Margaret Thatcher.I don't wish to dignify such comments with a response.

Goodbye.

You just championed the private sector. The truth is no private sector organisation of any decent size would allow any of the current cabinet anywhere near it's leadership positions.

 


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View steeleye20's Profile steeleye20 Flag Croydon 12 Nov 20 9.39am Send a Private Message to steeleye20 Add steeleye20 as a friend

The private sector have been a disaster, a unaccountable bunch of crooks syphoning off the taxpayers money and providing nothing in return.

And their reward, with every corona disaster, is to be awarded more and more money and more contracts to f**k up everything even more.

The worst example has to be water, where over 50 billions have disappeared into share-holders pockets since it was privatised.

And these companies just don't bother with rules and regulations, they are a law unto themselves creaming off the profits, and a major public health hazard.

 

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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Nov 20 9.42am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What can you point to that they have done so far that you can say has been successful?

The Brexit transition is a mess of their own making and that bed they soiled themselves is still not clean 4 years later.

I am not sure there are many parts of their handling of the pandemic you can point to and say they have handled well.

Still, if this is 'fine' for you I dread to think what 'bad' looks like.

This is the jibbering of the defeated. The garbage that the anti Tory media want you to believe.
It is however, funny whan a man who champions the most shambolic opposition in history criticises the government.
Thanks for amusing me.

 

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Flag 12 Nov 20 9.43am Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What can you point to that they have done so far that you can say has been successful?

The Brexit transition is a mess of their own making and that bed they soiled themselves is still not clean 4 years later.

I am not sure there are many parts of their handling of the pandemic you can point to and say they have handled well.

Still, if this is 'fine' for you I dread to think what 'bad' looks like.

But on the Coronavirus thread the problem was the populace not following the guidelines. Without going full-on Stasi in enforcement what more can the Government do without outraging civil liberties?

 

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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Nov 20 11.25am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Hrolf The Ganger

This is the jibbering of the defeated. The garbage that the anti Tory media want you to believe.
It is however, funny whan a man who champions the most shambolic opposition in history criticises the government.
Thanks for amusing me.

I see that you cannot point to anything that they have done well.

 


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View DanH's Profile DanH Flag SW2 12 Nov 20 11.28am Send a Private Message to DanH Add DanH as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle

But on the Coronavirus thread the problem was the populace not following the guidelines. Without going full-on Stasi in enforcement what more can the Government do without outraging civil liberties?

The initial lockdown should have been earlier. Once that didn't happen Covid had already taken hold and it was too late.

Since then it has been vague messaging and constant changing of position. The public were on board at the beginning but the constant flip flopping and Dominic Cummings totally undermined any confidence and eroded any will to do the right thing.

If they had managed to implement an effective track and trace programme we wouldn't be where we are either. Instead they outsourced it to a mate for 12 billion and it still doesn't work properly.

 


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View Hrolf The Ganger's Profile Hrolf The Ganger Flag 12 Nov 20 11.32am Send a Private Message to Hrolf The Ganger Add Hrolf The Ganger as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

I see that you cannot point to anything that they have done well.

No, I just can't be bothered to indulge such dimwittery.

 

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View topcat's Profile topcat Flag Holmesdale / Surbiton 12 Nov 20 11.40am Send a Private Message to topcat Add topcat as a friend

Originally posted by steeleye20

The private sector have been a disaster, a unaccountable bunch of crooks syphoning off the taxpayers money and providing nothing in return.

And their reward, with every corona disaster, is to be awarded more and more money and more contracts to f**k up everything even more.

The worst example has to be water, where over 50 billions have disappeared into share-holders pockets since it was privatised.

And these companies just don't bother with rules and regulations, they are a law unto themselves creaming off the profits, and a major public health hazard.


You probably didn't mean it but you seem to be blaming the whole public sector rather than specific companies or sectors of it. There are plenty of private companies that do just fine for themselves and employees and pay tax on their profits.

There are also plenty of companies not.

 


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View Wisbech Eagle's Profile Wisbech Eagle Flag Truro Cornwall 12 Nov 20 12.19pm Send a Private Message to Wisbech Eagle Add Wisbech Eagle as a friend

Originally posted by DanH

What can you point to that they have done so far that you can say has been successful?

The Brexit transition is a mess of their own making and that bed they soiled themselves is still not clean 4 years later.

I am not sure there are many parts of their handling of the pandemic you can point to and say they have handled well.

Still, if this is 'fine' for you I dread to think what 'bad' looks like.

Isn't that the truth! It's made worse though by a lack of effective opposition as a consequence of the Corbyn years. Starmer is trying but whilst he is still cleaning his own house he cannot yet be really focussed on the big one.

We are stumbling towards a Brexit that most now don't want in a way that almost no-one wants. Our government doesn't have anyone who inspires confidence or respect and seems dominated by faceless people determined to disrupt the civil service during a pandemic.

I have personal experience of the ineptitude, the detail of which must remain confidential but involves demonstrable lies in a press release which has cost my wife 10,000 and will likely end up with the Parliamentary Ombudsman. It has Cummings's fingerprints all over it. The story will be in the press shortly as we are not the only ones impacted.

 

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