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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Dec 20 9.13am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

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"England's second-largest police force failed to record more than 80,000 crimes in a year and closed cases without proper investigation, a watchdog has found.

Inspectors said Greater Manchester Police's (GMP) service to victims of crime was a "serious cause of concern".

HM Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) said about 220 crimes a day went unrecorded in the year up to June 2020.

The force said it had "robust plans" to address issues.

In the 12-month period reviewed by inspectors, it was estimated the force had recorded 77.7% of reported crimes, a drop of 11.3% from 2018." (BBC website)

This is where politics influences police policy. Racial profiling, knife crimes, speeding motorists.etc.

Whenever I've reported a crime (in SE London) I always ask for a Crime/Incident number to be generated. The police at the desk will always try and fob-off criminal damage as "one of those things" and "We can't do anything without evidence". Well, I want it reported anyway.

It's all a big political numbers game.


Edited by Forest Hillbilly (10 Dec 2020 9.15am)

 


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Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

BBC link

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"England's second-largest police force failed to record more than 80,000 crimes in a year and closed cases without proper investigation, a watchdog has found.

Inspectors said Greater Manchester Police's (GMP) service to victims of crime was a "serious cause of concern".

HM Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) said about 220 crimes a day went unrecorded in the year up to June 2020.

The force said it had "robust plans" to address issues.

In the 12-month period reviewed by inspectors, it was estimated the force had recorded 77.7% of reported crimes, a drop of 11.3% from 2018." (BBC website)

This is where politics influences police policy. Racial profiling, knife crimes, speeding motorists.etc.

Whenever I've reported a crime (in SE London) I always ask for a Crime/Incident number to be generated. The police at the desk will always try and fob-off criminal damage as "one of those things" and "We can't do anything without evidence". Well, I want it reported anyway.

It's all a big political numbers game.


Edited by Forest Hillbilly (10 Dec 2020 9.15am)

I'm thinking maybe some white girls are a part of this statistic but I'm sure it wont be top of the
'We didnt investigate' list.

 

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View Nicholas91's Profile Nicholas91 Online Flag Kent 10 Dec 20 9.17am Send a Private Message to Nicholas91 Add Nicholas91 as a friend

Originally posted by Forest Hillbilly

BBC link

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"England's second-largest police force failed to record more than 80,000 crimes in a year and closed cases without proper investigation, a watchdog has found.

Inspectors said Greater Manchester Police's (GMP) service to victims of crime was a "serious cause of concern".

HM Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) said about 220 crimes a day went unrecorded in the year up to June 2020.

The force said it had "robust plans" to address issues.

In the 12-month period reviewed by inspectors, it was estimated the force had recorded 77.7% of reported crimes, a drop of 11.3% from 2018."

This is where politics influences police policy. Racial profiling, knife crimes, speeding motorists.etc.

Whenever I've reported a crime (in SE London) I always ask for a Crime/Incident number to be generated. The police at the desk will always try and fob-off criminal damage as "one of those things" and "We can't do anything without evidence". Well, I want it reported anyway.

It's all a big political numbers game.


I pray that nobody on here has or will be the victim of burglary in the area.

Recently friends had their flat broken into in Deptford, just past the DLR up the hill towards Greenwich.

Police near enough told them point blank that there was f**k all they could or would do about it.

Horrendous crime to be a victim of, especially these days as they go after jewellery and sentimental items to then take to Crack Converters and the Police have sod all interest in solving or even investigating.

I'm not entirely blaming the Police themselves, but it's a sorry state of affairs.

 


Here's to you the famous red and blue.....

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View Forest Hillbilly's Profile Forest Hillbilly Flag in a hidey-hole 10 Dec 20 9.35am Send a Private Message to Forest Hillbilly Add Forest Hillbilly as a friend

Actually rape and domestic violence are also under-reported, largely because of poor conviction rates and lack of evidence.

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 20 9.51am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!

 


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View Badger11's Profile Badger11 Flag Beckenham 10 Dec 20 9.59am Send a Private Message to Badger11 Add Badger11 as a friend

Originally posted by Nicholas91

I pray that nobody on here has or will be the victim of burglary in the area.

Recently friends had their flat broken into in Deptford, just past the DLR up the hill towards Greenwich.

Police near enough told them point blank that there was f**k all they could or would do about it.

Horrendous crime to be a victim of, especially these days as they go after jewellery and sentimental items to then take to Crack Converters and the Police have sod all interest in solving or even investigating.

I'm not entirely blaming the Police themselves, but it's a sorry state of affairs.

A few weeks ago a friend who lives in Bromley answered the door 2 men one with a gun the other with a knife pushed their way in threatened everybody and robbed the household. Luckily nobody was injured the police would not even enter the premises because of COVID let alone take forensics.

He's not expecting the police to be kicking down doors anytime soon.

 


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View ASCPFC's Profile ASCPFC Flag Pro-Cathedral/caravan park 10 Dec 20 10.00am Send a Private Message to ASCPFC Add ASCPFC as a friend

A political choice to make crime statistics better than they are.

 


I used to put the manager's name in front of Red and Blue but got fed up with changing it. If someone cool becomes our manager then maybe..

Red and Blue Army!

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View Teddy Eagle's Profile Teddy Eagle Online Flag 10 Dec 20 12.10pm Send a Private Message to Teddy Eagle Add Teddy Eagle as a friend


There is a slew of programmes on following the police around and highlighting the problems they face. Whatís notable is how many arrested people are subsequently released without charge.

 

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View PalazioVecchio's Profile PalazioVecchio Flag south pole 10 Dec 20 2.48pm Send a Private Message to PalazioVecchio Add PalazioVecchio as a friend

a couple times in my life i needed the help of the cops.

to say i was disappointed in their performance would be a rather large understatement.

Hypothetical question : if you ever needed help again, would you be better off slipping a few quid to Tony Soprano ?

 


from the Etihad, Emirates, Molyneux, London Stadium, the Vitality, turf moor & Anfield to Old Trafford x 2.....or a neighbourly visit to Craven Cottage...Raptors on the Road

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View thegreatlardino's Profile thegreatlardino Flag creepy crawley 10 Dec 20 5.19pm Send a Private Message to thegreatlardino Add thegreatlardino as a friend

if you need to report something minor, do it online, you will get a reference number of sorts, I do wonder if this was a conscious decision by GMP management to do this to reduce the numbers of reported crimes, but they got caught out by the inspection.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Dec 20 8.01pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by ASCPFC

A political choice to make crime statistics better than they are.

Indeed makes Andy Burnham seem that he is cutting crime

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 10 Dec 20 8.02pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Teddy Eagle


There is a slew of programmes on following the police around and highlighting the problems they face. Whatís notable is how many arrested people are subsequently released without charge.

Yep very similar when BF pick up illegal workers, high percentage given temporary admission

 

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