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View doombear's Profile doombear Flag Too far from Selhurst Park 18 Dec 20 11.02am Send a Private Message to doombear Add doombear as a friend

RH gave the journos short shrift in his post-match interviews on Wednesday. Have never seen him so angry after a game. He is increasingly having a go at journos and their stats. First it was possession stats and now it's Benteke has only scored...goals in...games etc. I enjoyed the putdowns.

However, what interested me most was when he was asked about having changed to a more attacking style in recent games. He totally denied it, saying the team always try and play the same way and that the team's attacking link-up play has simply been more successful in the last 3 games. Hmm Thoughts from others who watched the interview?

 

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View nead1's Profile nead1 Flag 18 Dec 20 11.21am Send a Private Message to nead1 Add nead1 as a friend

I agree - he was clearly very irritated and we should also remember the Luka red card and the absurd hand ball decisions against Everton. He has every right to feel annoyed when you look at the bigger picture.

What I thought was especially revealing was that he clearly has no time for what he considers absurd questions; equally, my impression is that he does not like to be crossed and this would extend into his management of the club and the players. I suspect he tolerates Freedman but probably not much more than that.

Again, its just an impression, but the players seem to have a lot of respect for him and to find a coach - at his age - on the training pitch every single day is remarkable especially when you compare it with the likes of Warnock and Pardew. Palace are lucky to have him and Ray in my opinion and I can certainly see him carrying on for at least another season.

 

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View rollercoaster's Profile rollercoaster Flag Cornwall 18 Dec 20 11.21am Send a Private Message to rollercoaster Add rollercoaster as a friend

Loved the way he put the journos straight.

The style of the team has changed with Eze in the team. I guess the tactics are basically the same but the team is better balanced and it shows. The same thing happened when RLC was in the team. Last year we were poor to watch because we had a lot of work horses in the team.
Finally, things are a bit different now because for the first time in a while Roy has got a decent choice of players available.

 

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View Rudi Hedman's Profile Rudi Hedman Flag Caterham 18 Dec 20 11.41am Send a Private Message to Rudi Hedman Add Rudi Hedman as a friend

Originally posted by rollercoaster

Loved the way he put the journos straight.

The style of the team has changed with Eze in the team. I guess the tactics are basically the same but the team is better balanced and it shows. The same thing happened when RLC was in the team. Last year we were poor to watch because we had a lot of work horses in the team.
Finally, things are a bit different now because for the first time in a while Roy has got a decent choice of players available.

Agree with this. Unfortunately when there isn’t a ball carrier or 2 or 3 we’re left clueless, as we’ve seen in so many 2nd halves at home 0-1 down.

 


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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 18 Dec 20 1.36pm Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

ive heard from somebody thats worked closely to the team, he certainly does not suffer fools & can deliver a proper old school bollocking.
fair play.

 


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View TheBigToePunt's Profile TheBigToePunt Flag 18 Dec 20 2.20pm Send a Private Message to TheBigToePunt Add TheBigToePunt as a friend

You would certainly expect a man with Roys CV and life experience not to suffer fools, and Christ only knows there are an ever increasing army of them in football 'journalism'.

Recipe for a prickly manager:

1. Take 1 multi-lingual, articulate, honest and reasonable man who's clocked up an astonishing 44 years as a top flight club and international coach all around the world.

2. Ensure he is contractually obligated to answer pointless, banal questions from the media. For added zest, ensure that should he ever speak openly and honestly it is instantly to his detriment (e.g stir in FA fines for saying anything that anyone with eyes and a brain already knows to be true, add a pinch of negative media coverage to taste).

3. Pounce on him within moments of the final whistle, ideally after he's just seen his team robbed by awful refereeing, the impact of which will carry over into the next game against the champions, and against which there is no right of appeal. For added spiciness, give him no time whatsoever to calm down, or to be with his players.

4. To garnish, get some empty-headed media graduate to offer their personal tactical assessment of said coaches work. For best results, ensure 'touchline reporter' has no known relevant skills, experience or reputation.

5. After three or four minutes at Gas Mark 5 you should get something like this:

[Link]

Bon appetit!

Edited by TheBigToePunt (18 Dec 2020 2.28pm)

 

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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 18 Dec 20 3.03pm Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by kingdowieonthewall

ive heard from somebody thats worked closely to the team, he certainly does not suffer fools & can deliver a proper old school bollocking.
fair play.

Danny Murphy has said this on a few occasions

 

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View Joseph Paxton's Profile Joseph Paxton Flag Lancing 18 Dec 20 3.28pm Send a Private Message to Joseph Paxton Add Joseph Paxton as a friend

You could say it's media training but probably a lot more to do with old school savvy.

Every man and his blog nowadays is an expert (even probably meself on this forum). Barrel loads of conjecture and speculation because opinion generates clicks...

I really admire how the club handled the injury dilemma that ran from late last season into beginning of this. Did'nt draw attention to it so did'nt give opponents a chance to exploit it. Of course we now have a near full complement to improve tactics and more importantly: strategy.

As I said, media training is important but Roy's instinct and savvy will get us over the line.

 


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View m/k mick's Profile m/k mick Flag milton keynes 18 Dec 20 5.29pm Send a Private Message to m/k mick Add m/k mick as a friend

After the Brighton game, i came on here and said i was a happy bunny with my team, supported them for 63 years now, Roy does a great job, enjoy and support him whilst we have him, then support whoever takes over, merry xmas all, and a happy new year, mind you any new year is going to beat the crap out of the present one

 

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View Ketteridge's Profile Ketteridge Flag Brighton 19 Dec 20 8.29am Send a Private Message to Ketteridge Add Ketteridge as a friend

Mourinho having a go about stats today in the Guardian [Link] . If you want to annoy a Brighton supporter tell them possession doesn’t win games , they’ll quote you list of moneyball stats , possession to points correlations and all sorts ignoring that good teams win because they have the best players and are able to break down teams in the final third. Brighton build up possession playing in front of the opposition and letting them regroup. Possession stats are irrelevant to us because we look to get the ball forward quickly and create opportunities we are not looking to hold the ball, in the main would you rather see WIlf tear at defend with 30/40 yards in front of him to play in or keep possession and play a sessible ball back to the Cahill? That should be Hodgson's response when question on stats.
Stats can be important to illustrate complex patterns but broad stats like possession or shots on goal are simplistic and blunt. By the way my job is a statistician so I’m not against stats.

 


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View Spiderman's Profile Spiderman Flag Horsham 19 Dec 20 8.52am Send a Private Message to Spiderman Add Spiderman as a friend

Originally posted by Ketteridge

Mourinho having a go about stats today in the Guardian [Link] . If you want to annoy a Brighton supporter tell them possession doesn’t win games , they’ll quote you list of moneyball stats , possession to points correlations and all sorts ignoring that good teams win because they have the best players and are able to break down teams in the final third. Brighton build up possession playing in front of the opposition and letting them regroup. Possession stats are irrelevant to us because we look to get the ball forward quickly and create opportunities we are not looking to hold the ball, in the main would you rather see WIlf tear at defend with 30/40 yards in front of him to play in or keep possession and play a sessible ball back to the Cahill? That should be Hodgson's response when question on stats.
Stats can be important to illustrate complex patterns but broad stats like possession or shots on goal are simplistic and blunt. By the way my job is a statistician so I’m not against stats.

Good post, totally agree.
I have a similar view regarding stats on players, imo they hold little weight when deciding whether to sign or not. Analytical data is the way forward, Brentford use it very successfully

 

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View kingdowieonthewall's Profile kingdowieonthewall Flag Sussex, ex-Cronx. 19 Dec 20 9.22am Send a Private Message to kingdowieonthewall Add kingdowieonthewall as a friend

Originally posted by TheBigToePunt

You would certainly expect a man with Roys CV and life experience not to suffer fools, and Christ only knows there are an ever increasing army of them in football 'journalism'.

Recipe for a prickly manager:

1. Take 1 multi-lingual, articulate, honest and reasonable man who's clocked up an astonishing 44 years as a top flight club and international coach all around the world.

2. Ensure he is contractually obligated to answer pointless, banal questions from the media. For added zest, ensure that should he ever speak openly and honestly it is instantly to his detriment (e.g stir in FA fines for saying anything that anyone with eyes and a brain already knows to be true, add a pinch of negative media coverage to taste).

3. Pounce on him within moments of the final whistle, ideally after he's just seen his team robbed by awful refereeing, the impact of which will carry over into the next game against the champions, and against which there is no right of appeal. For added spiciness, give him no time whatsoever to calm down, or to be with his players.

4. To garnish, get some empty-headed media graduate to offer their personal tactical assessment of said coaches work. For best results, ensure 'touchline reporter' has no known relevant skills, experience or reputation.

5. After three or four minutes at Gas Mark 5 you should get something like this:

[Link]

Bon appetit!

Edited by TheBigToePunt (18 Dec 2020 2.28pm)

looks just on the cusp of thumping the interviewer..

 


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